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Jan 16 2012 12:25am
A VERY nice video with Peter Russell that helps the most septic ones to see a little bit easier what it's all about.

This is a must watch, so sit in a comfortable way grab a coffee and go on ^^

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Jan 16 2012 01:22am
another youtube video.

compelling argument.
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Jan 16 2012 02:28am
The first half is alright and is a pretty basic intro to the philosophy of mind, the second half is a half justified ramble that ends up saying nothing at all. He wants a 'metaparadigm' shift in physics, I posit that he is actually after a paradigm shift in metaphysics, which is subtly but importantly different. All in all, it's rather trivial. If his paradigm shift occurs, nothing in science changes. Nothing in our day to day life changes. It's a metaphysical, unprovable, ineffective, philosophical hypothesis.

Basic, trivial, unjustified, and of no effect. Show me otherwise.
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Jan 16 2012 03:36am
Didn't understand that whatsoever.
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Jan 16 2012 12:17pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jan 15 2012 09:22pm)
another youtube video.

compelling argument.


what's the difference between a book and a YouTube video such as this one which wasn't meant to be on YouTube and this conference would happen regardless of YouTube existence.
I don't see your point, or in fact I see, and its the point of someone who doesn't know what to say but still wanna leave his impression even being totally irrelevant.

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The first half is alright and is a pretty basic intro to the philosophy of mind, the second half is a half justified ramble that ends up saying nothing at all. He wants a 'metaparadigm' shift in physics, I posit that he is actually after a paradigm shift in metaphysics, which is subtly but importantly different. All in all, it's rather trivial. If his paradigm shift occurs, nothing in science changes. Nothing in our day to day life changes. It's a metaphysical, unprovable, ineffective, philosophical hypothesis.

Basic, trivial, unjustified, and of no effect. Show me otherwise.


I know it's hard to see, understand, or even come close to make sense to some people, but may I suggest something?
If I may please let me suggest you to watch these 2 movies:
- kymatica
- revelation of the pyramids

One can only see and/or understand something that he is consciousness of, its like a dark room trying to understand some noise coming from the corner.
Those movies will help you getting the right picture.

After those do a little research of your own about quantum physics and see where science is right now, what they are studying etc.. Its this. They are studying matter, antimatter and what drives it all which is consciousness and how can consciousness be related to matter, etc..

Quote (Jimbei @ Jan 15 2012 11:36pm)
Didn't understand that whatsoever.


lol ^^

This post was edited by omghacks2 on Jan 16 2012 12:19pm
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Jan 16 2012 12:34pm
Quote (omghacks2 @ Jan 16 2012 12:17pm)
what's the difference between a book and a YouTube video such as this one which wasn't meant to be on YouTube and this conference would happen regardless of YouTube existence.
I don't see your point, or in fact I see, and its the point of someone who doesn't know what to say but still wanna leave his impression even being totally irrelevant.


Youtube is as acceptable as wikipedia. That doesn't mean that it cannot be used as a tool, but defending it to the nth would be unwise.
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Jan 16 2012 03:33pm
Didn't watch but... What does an imaginary god have to do with physics?
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Jan 16 2012 03:41pm
Quote (omghacks2 @ Jan 16 2012 12:17pm)
what's the difference between a book and a YouTube video such as this one which wasn't meant to be on YouTube and this conference would happen regardless of YouTube existence.
I don't see your point, or in fact I see, and its the point of someone who doesn't know what to say but still wanna leave his impression even being totally irrelevant.



I know it's hard to see, understand, or even come close to make sense to some people, but may I suggest something?
If I may please let me suggest you to watch these 2 movies:
- kymatica
- revelation of the pyramids

One can only see and/or understand something that he is consciousness of, its like a dark room trying to understand some noise coming from the corner.
Those movies will help you getting the right picture.

After those do a little research of your own about quantum physics and see where science is right now, what they are studying etc.. Its this. They are studying matter, antimatter and what drives it all which is consciousness and how can consciousness be related to matter, etc..



lol ^^


It's really not. Anyone who has watched and understood the Matrix understands the things your videos are saying. What everyone else is saying is that the videos either A aren't saying what you claim they're saying or B aren't trustworthy sources.

You believe consciousness creates reality. I believe reality is independent of the observer, and what we perceive is a creation of consciousness. Do you understand that?

What are your credentials?
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Jan 16 2012 05:11pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ Jan 16 2012 11:41am)
What everyone else is saying is that the videos either A aren't saying what you claim they're saying or B aren't trustworthy sources.


The only thing I said about the video is in the thread title, now lets see:

Thread title --> The primacy of the consciousness / Video Title --> The primacy of the consciousness
Thread description --> Consciousness, light, matter and (god) / Video is about of: Consciousness, light, matter and (god) Its a relation between all of these and much more.

Now what did I say the video was but its not?

Trustworthy sources do not exist. ESPECIALLY about this.

Quote (Derkaderk @ Jan 16 2012 11:41am)
You believe consciousness creates reality. I believe reality is independent of the observer, and what we perceive is a creation of consciousness. Do you understand that?

What are your credentials?


Thats what Ive been saying and trying to make people understand with the videos I have been posting, why are you asking me a question which is the reason of my threads?


But you still wrong, reality is not independent of the observer, it is DEPENDENT of the observer, I believe you made a typo. Reality is not the same for everyone, the way you perceive things is personal, no one else sees things as you do.

Credentials to begin with are my personal experience as I said previously, and that I can't prove it to you besides saying what I did or not. I don't know this because of the videos or because of being what quantum physicists are studying at the moment, I know this long before I saw these videos, Ive done MANY, but I mean A LOT of things in life throughout the power of consciousness which I used to call god. I can GUARANTEE you that life changes in a instant, and its not a growing process as many people think. What you want (your next step to achieve a goal) happens in 1 day or even 1 hour from the moment you want it and act as if you have it already, out of what many people call "luck". Its not a thing you are aware and know how it happens.
I also believe it may be hard for most people to start doing it, but everyone with practice will soon get the right feeling and instantly become what they want to be when they want it.
But besides my own personal experience as credentials (which I don't call credentials at all because I don't need to prove it or base my beliefs in any credentials anymore, it is IN me already, I feel it, I know it, its part of me) theres the credentials of MANY famous quantum physicists around the world, theres videos that can explain MANY things you don't know that will make you say "Ah, now I got it", theres many tests, its something from way back in the times that many peoples talked about, theres way many evidences. If you believe in God or that something exists beyond our little brains, that this is that something.

This post was edited by omghacks2 on Jan 16 2012 05:15pm
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Jan 16 2012 08:18pm
Peter Russell the love muscle?
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