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Jan 11 2011 09:57pm
interesting, but i dont think we will ever actually know the events that brought our universe into existance, if even there were any
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Jan 11 2011 10:17pm
does it matter if the big fuckin bang happened or not?
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Jan 12 2011 12:13am
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does it matter if the big fuckin bang happened or not?


yes lol

understanding the fundamentals of the universe will allow us to seed the galaxy with colonies
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Jan 12 2011 12:40am
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yes lol 

understanding the fundamentals of the universe will allow us to seed the galaxy  with colonies


lol im missing the connection here.

how does understanding how the universe came into being help us with colonizing the universe? or are you just stupid?

btw didnt watch the vid

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Jan 12 2011 01:23pm
Why is it that so called scientists like these are always shunned by the near entirety of the scientific community? Each one of their video's contains a sob story about how no other scientist is convinced by their hypothesis and and they end up losing any notoriety. Same with the anti evolution camp. I feel like this is ben stein's sad excuse for a film all over again.

Btw, the first couple statements alone within that film were incorrect. Big bang doesn't argue that the universe came from nothing. The big bang doesn't argue that the universe came from a violent explosion (big bang was actually originally a derogatory term). The big bang doesn't explain the how the universe began, rather how it evolved to how it is today.

Your video is looking pretty bad from the get go. But not only that, the big bang has been cross-confirmed numerous times by other methods.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html#misconceptions





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Why is it that so called scientists like these are always shunned by the near entirety of the scientific community? Each one of their video's contains a sob story about how no other scientist is convinced by their hypothesis and and they end up losing any notoriety. Same with the anti evolution camp. I feel like this is ben stein's sad excuse for a film all over again.

Btw, the first couple statements alone within that film were incorrect. Big bang doesn't argue that the universe came from nothing. The big bang doesn't argue that the universe came from a violent explosion (big bang was actually originally a derogatory term). The big bang doesn't explain the how the universe began, rather how it evolved to how it is today.

Your video is looking pretty bad from the get go. But not only that, the big bang has been cross-confirmed numerous times by other methods.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html#misconceptions



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCkADmNdNo


the big bang is completely retarded, im not asking u to accept their hypothesis about the plasma universe but at least to realize how screwed up and unscientific the acedmic world really is today. Not sure why but if someone has a PHD haning on their wall it seems to make stupid people believe their bullshit a lot easier.

i already know what ur video is going to say but i cant believe anyone would accept eistien's stupid relativity theory when if the universe followed his laws it would all collapse in on itself, but not only that but when he came to the conclusion that if you follow his laws to the limit it results in a "black hole" the most illogical retarded conclusion of the 20th century and yet it wasn't enough to get him to retract his work
Things that are fucking obviously false:
an object having zero volume and infinite mass (black holes? wtf is that shit)
time slowing down near large mass objects, lol? time is a fucking concept, ideas cannot speed up or slow down
the universe accelerating at more than the speed of light (inflation/ big bang bullshit and misinterupted red shift)
over 90% of the universe being dark matter/energy (aka an eqation on a piece of paper with no evidence, and infact all evidence pointing to the contrary and yet it wasnt enough to sway these arrogant pieces of shit scientists we have these days)

/rage

people are so fucked up they try to force the universe to fit into their stupid ass perceptions instead of looking at the evidence
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Jan 13 2011 09:19pm
rage part 2

also the time scale that the big bang claims, 13-14 billion years isnt nearly long enough for the advanced structures and massive voids to form we see in the universe today.
if they would have said a trillion years i might believe them but the big bang can be proved wrong from a simple drawing. draw the universe before it supposedly expanded. most scientists would draw a dot on a piece of paper, but how can it be a dot beucase the space around the dot gives form to that dot so u can recognize it as a dot. scientists would say, you cant observe the universe from outside the universe, which is true, it just shows that the big bang is conceptually impossible, not only that but einstiens laws break down and cannot describe the conditions that would have caused it, so either his laws are wrong or the big bang is wrong or both.

also my favorite point that the video made was how big bang scientists use element composition as proof that their theory is right, but when they had to add dark matter and dark energy it changes the initial conditions of the big bang therefore throwing off their element composition evidence, so any way around it, it is impossible to make the THEORY of the big bang fit reality

i know im wasting my breathe, and im just a dumbass myself, but it just feels good to get this rage out somewhere
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Jan 13 2011 09:22pm
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the big bang is completely retarded, im not asking u to accept their hypothesis about the plasma universe but at least to realize how screwed up and unscientific the acedmic world really is today. Not sure why but if someone has a PHD haning on their wall it seems to make stupid people believe their bullshit a lot easier.

i already know what ur video is going to say but i cant believe anyone would accept eistien's stupid relativity theory when if the universe followed his laws it would all collapse in on itself, but not only that but when he came to the conclusion that if you follow his laws to the limit it results in a "black hole" the most illogical retarded conclusion of the 20th century and yet it wasn't enough to get him to retract his work
Things that are fucking obviously false:
an object having zero volume andinfinite mass (black holes? wtf is that shit)
time slowing down near large mass objects, lol? time is a fucking concept, ideas cannot speed up or slow down
the universe accelerating at more than the speed of light (inflation/ big bang bullshit and misinteruptedred shift)
over 90% of the universe being dark matter/energy (aka an eqation on a piece of paper with no evidence, and infact all evidence pointing to the contrary and yet it wasnt enough to sway these arrogant pieces of shit scientists we have these days)

/rage

people are so fucked up they try to force the universe to fit into their stupid ass perceptions instead of looking at the evidence


lold at the bold.
0 volume + FINITE mass
time is not just a concept. it is not artificial; it can be measured with light instruments and atomic decay clocks etc
and i just lold at misinterupted

This post was edited by Kamikizzle on Jan 13 2011 09:29pm
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Jan 14 2011 12:32am
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You think you know all the evidence there is for the big bang? You think you can submit information and simply refuse to even review let alone address the information others submit in response to your claims, then continue as if there isn't a objection in existence to your views (I won't even address them as arguments, because those require an actual exchange)? You think the scientific community is full off bullshit, while at the same time basking in the countless luxuries and benefits from their contributions every single day?

You agreed with a video that got the absolute fundamentals of the big bang absolutely incorrect. How can somebody who doesn't even understand the basics of the big bang claim to know more than the greatest, most accomplished scientists of today?

Based off these facts, if anybody's full of bullshit it's you, and you've just lost any call to an audience or to be taken seriously from anyone who cares about what is and isn't true.

I sincerely hope you invest in one of these so that the gullible can easily spot you ahead of time.




Regards.

This post was edited by Black487 on Jan 14 2011 12:37am
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