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Nov 16 2009 12:49pm
Human "choices" are the result of chemical reactions taking place in the brain. You're just a complex biological machine, nothing more. I know that sounds cold, but free will does not exist. Given sufficient information (google the book Single Neuron Computation, and single neuron dynamics) you could predict exactly how an organism's life will turn out.

True free will would negate cause and effect. Ultimately we're all just a very complex system. Free will is our personal experience of a system too complex for us to reliably understand.
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Nov 16 2009 02:08pm
odd, we cant be a macine, we think
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Nov 16 2009 08:57pm
Quote (toddavid @ Nov 16 2009 02:08pm)
odd, we cant be a macine, we think


Do you not know what AI is?
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Nov 16 2009 09:24pm
Thanks for your lies, but you're ignoring something very fucking big.

I'll just take my plus one and leave.

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Nov 17 2009 06:51am
i think some of what you say is true to a degree and a good post about this can be found by googling "sloppy dualism on bad astronomy"
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Nov 17 2009 12:09pm
Quote (toddavid @ Nov 16 2009 02:08pm)
odd, we cant be a macine, we think


Machines can think? Machines can be coded to learn, think of simple chat bots (such as ones on omegle) that respond to other people, by listening to what they are saying. This is a machine, coded by humans. To a degree, it is thinking, and learning.
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Nov 17 2009 03:38pm
Quote (kepkep @ Nov 16 2009 02:49pm)
Human "choices" are the result of chemical reactions taking place in the brain. You're just a complex biological machine, nothing more. I know that sounds cold, but free will does not exist. Given sufficient information (google the book Single Neuron Computation, and single neuron dynamics) you could predict exactly how an organism's life will turn out.

True free will would negate cause and effect. Ultimately we're all just a very complex system. Free will is our personal experience of a system too complex for us to reliably understand.


It was the will of the force that you posted this.
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Nov 17 2009 04:45pm
you are a low mind kid
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Quote (FLOKING24 @ 18 Nov 2009 01:45)
you are a  low mind kid



I am sry for this post but there is a reason :

you can look at my posts : I not use this kind of words :)

But, to proof you that I have a free will, I write that post :)

If I had no free will, because I am a nice person, I could not use that words in a post ;)

This is only a simple example that we have free will.

the real question is :

How far our free will works?

And for answer at this , the story is far too long and this is not the place .

regards,

FLO :)
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Nov 18 2009 08:23am
Quote (kepkep @ Nov 17 2009 04:49am)
Human "choices" are the result of chemical reactions taking place in the brain. You're just a complex biological machine, nothing more. I know that sounds cold, but free will does not exist. Given sufficient information (google the book Single Neuron Computation, and single neuron dynamics) you could predict exactly how an organism's life will turn out.

True free will would negate cause and effect. Ultimately we're all just a very complex system. Free will is our personal experience of a system too complex for us to reliably understand.


So you are saying that we have no control over the decisions we make? Who was it that made the decision to post in this thread and type what you typed? Was it the D2Jsp fairy again? I despise her as well.
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