d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Science, Technology & Nature > Swine Flu Vaccine.
123Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 172
Joined: Sep 9 2009
Gold: 1.60
Sep 26 2009 10:18am
Is it dangerous? could someone highlight the risks for me.
Member
Posts: 3,802
Joined: Jul 16 2009
Gold: 15,765.00
Sep 26 2009 02:18pm
influenza vaccines are usually only given to very young or very old people, and use killed viruses so there is no risk of infection. live attenuated viruses can be used in immunocomptetent persons between the ages of 5 and 49. but in the end, swine flu is probably less lethal than regular flu. there's been about 400.000 cases worldwide, and some 4.000 deaths.

e: compared to the H1N1 pandemic of 1918, 200.000.000 deaths makes us look a bit paranoid. there is always the risk of further antigenic shift toward a more lethal, less treatable strain of course.

This post was edited by Gurby on Sep 26 2009 02:20pm
Member
Posts: 154
Joined: Sep 28 2009
Gold: 0.00
Sep 28 2009 01:00pm
Quote (Gurby @ Sat, Sep 26 2009, 01:18pm)
influenza vaccines are usually only given to very young or very old people, and use killed viruses so there is no risk of infection. live attenuated viruses can be used in immunocomptetent persons between the ages of 5 and 49. but in the end, swine flu is probably less lethal than regular flu. there's been about 400.000 cases worldwide, and some 4.000 deaths.

e: compared to the H1N1 pandemic of 1918, 200.000.000 deaths makes us look a bit paranoid. there is always the risk of further antigenic shift toward a more lethal, less treatable strain of course.


Did i miss something, last time i checked swine flu was H1N1, in other words wtf is he talkin bout ^ (or all the scientists calling swine flu H1N1 dumb lol). Actually swine flue is much more dangerous then he is letting on...
Despite swine flu's name it is actually a flu from birds (ill break it down)

Birds can not give a flu to humans, however the chicken can get a flu from just about any bird
Chickens still can not give a flu to a human, however chickens can give a flu to a pig (or swine)
Pigs (or swine) can give a flu to a human.

Both the avian flu in 1918 and the swine flu of today come from that same chain, and they where both originally an illness from birds, however the swine flu of today is actually a mixture of 3 different illnesses, making it all the more deadly.

About the pandemic in 1918, the first year that the avian flu appeared it didnt actually do much damage, it was the second winter that it was around that it became a pandemic,
if you look at the swine flu of today we are approaching the 2nt winter that it has been around, so comparing it to 1918... well thats some scary shit.
Member
Posts: 5,705
Joined: Oct 18 2006
Gold: 30.00
Oct 10 2009 03:16pm
Quote (DarkestLight @ Mon, Sep 28 2009, 02:00pm)
Did i miss something, last time i checked swine flu was H1N1, in other words wtf is he talkin bout ^ (or all the scientists calling swine flu H1N1 dumb lol). Actually swine flue is much more dangerous then he is letting on...
Despite swine flu's name it is actually a flu from birds (ill break it down)

Birds can not give a flu to humans, however the chicken can get a flu from just about any bird
Chickens still can not give a flu to a human, however chickens can give a flu to a pig (or swine)
Pigs (or swine) can give a flu to a human.

Both the avian flu in 1918 and the swine flu of today come from that same chain, and they where both originally an illness from birds, however the swine flu of today is actually a mixture of 3 different illnesses, making it all the more deadly.

About the pandemic in 1918, the first year that the avian flu appeared it didnt actually do much damage, it was the second winter that it was around that it became a pandemic,
if you look at the swine flu of today we are approaching the 2nt winter that it has been around, so comparing it to 1918... well thats some scary shit.


You also have to keep in mind about a century of improved medicine and medical technologies. I do however fully agree about a "second wind" that will be much more worse than the first, solely based on the history of other pandemics/epidemics.
Member
Posts: 6,591
Joined: Aug 3 2008
Gold: 663.00
Oct 11 2009 12:04am
well yea it contains mercury and also has some substance that is used for making antifreeze
Member
Posts: 36,595
Joined: Aug 17 2007
Gold: Locked
Warn: 10%
Oct 11 2009 01:48am
People that are all up in arms about swine flu here is a pro tip, It is a fucking joke I just had this flu, and without any sort of medication besides aspirin and loads of water pulled through quite nicely it is nothing to be scared about.
Banned
Posts: 4,591
Joined: Feb 23 2004
Gold: Locked
Trader: Scammer
Warn: 40%
Oct 11 2009 02:05am
The cure is my semen

Unfortunately for mankind, I only spread my seed in hot bitches
Member
Posts: 336
Joined: Nov 17 2009
Gold: 0.00
Nov 20 2009 07:04am
Who knows if it will become a full blown pandemic, or if its just more propaganda the media is feeding us to make money...
NEver the less It's always better safe then sorry.

I got my H1n1 vaccine, i feel i was kinda forced into it... but w/e....

I saw on the news in some places in the USA they might make it Martial Law that you get the shot.
Banned
Posts: 21,394
Joined: Mar 16 2006
Gold: Locked
Trader: Scammer
Warn: 50%
Nov 20 2009 07:09am
Why would you get it anyways? I've had swine flu few weeks ago and it was nothing, I really don't get all the panic around this.
Member
Posts: 336
Joined: Nov 17 2009
Gold: 0.00
Nov 20 2009 08:59am
Quote (danifilth @ Nov 20 2009 07:09am)
Why would you get it anyways? I've had swine flu few weeks ago and it was nothing, I really don't get all the panic around this.


I had a baby under 6 weeks ago, so aparently If you are caring for a child under 6 months (children under 6 months cant get the shot) then you HAVE to get it. They basically used a scare tactic agasint me saying if my baby got it from me, got sick and died it would be all my fault :/
those bastards ><
Go Back To Science, Technology & Nature Topic List
123Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll