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Mar 25 2009 01:22pm
If someone was frozen with cryogenics would they age?
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Mar 25 2009 04:23pm
is there any research going on about cryogenics?
The idea behind it is that you greatly slow down or halt the body's processes - so it depends on how you define age.
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Mar 25 2009 04:29pm
Theoretically you would age but physically you would not.
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Mar 25 2009 07:36pm
Quote (heepajunk @ Wed, Mar 25 2009, 05:23pm)
is there any research going on about cryogenics?
The idea behind it is that you greatly slow down or halt the body's processes - so it depends on how you define age.


ted williams is frozen in scottsdale arizona. he was 83ish when frozen and will be thawed in a century or so when we can cure him. then he will go straight to the nursing home. or maybe join an over 40 league.

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/10/TampaBay/People_can_be_frozen_.shtml

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Mar 27 2009 12:25pm
I had a dream I was able to cryogenicly freeze people without harm to their body, is that yet possible? I would love to be frozen myself if the damage was minimal.
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Mar 27 2009 01:07pm
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Mar 27 2009 01:11pm
from what i hear it might be, there is supposed to be particular things in biology that allow the change of the temperature of the freezing point of water, which is what usually causes the tissue damage
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Mar 28 2009 03:28pm
Quote (juliusjuice @ Wed, Mar 25 2009, 06:36pm)
ted williams is frozen in scottsdale arizona. he was 83ish when frozen and will be thawed in a century or so when we can cure him. then he will go straight to the nursing home. or maybe join an over 40 league.

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/10/TampaBay/People_can_be_frozen_.shtml


we dont even know if he will be alive when hes thawed out
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Mar 30 2009 06:02am
yes and know, see standard cryogenics is technically impossible, because unless you can reach absolute zero (which we cant) instantly, on a molecular level (which we REALLY cant) it would be very painful, lethal, and your body would need food/water (rarely but it would)

we need a stasis of a different sort. i don't think freezing is the answer, we need to figure out how to disintegrate things on a molecular level, atomic even. and then reintegrate them exactly the same. because atoms themselves don't age or deteriorate. Thus being able to store someone, almost in a battery, and then "Remake" them at a later time.

Also, as for Mr Ted Williams... His body is slowly "aging" because we didn't freeze him to an absolute zero, just really close, so its slow but he is aging.

Honestly though, the trick isn't freezing people, its thawing them out. we can do it fast enough, its just about when we take them out, they have to be thawed rather quickly and at an equal rate over every inch of the body, inside and out. if not, there will be severe tissue damage.


In the end I think demolecularization would be the best bet, storing the atoms and electrons in a simple conduit. But... the reintegration would be painfully hard. and demolecularization would be pretty tricky because you would have to get the person to fall apart all at the exact same time, or else again you get massive trauma and pain.
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Mar 30 2009 06:06am
hmmm probably because if you started freezing part of your body and your heart was still pumping then it would cause pressure buildup and a rupture somewhere in the circulatory system
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