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Mar 22 2009 09:16pm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499596/

Has anyone seen this? it's on youtube and it starts off talking about the double slit experiment and stuff but than goes on to say a that on a dimension that were not even aware of our thoughts effect things.
one example they use is that if there is a random number generator and someone presses a button it will go 00110110.... and be approximitly 50% zero's and 50% ones. It goes on to say that if the person pressing the button mentally convinces themselves that they want more ones than zeros than more ones will appear.

The double split experiment is cool and very thought provoking but the movie goes on to make some pretty outrageous claims. Its all on youtube, good watch i recommend it. You gotta take from it some things and kinda draw the line on other things in my opinion.
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Mar 22 2009 09:21pm
it's 150 minutes long

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSk51Lp-vHU&feature=PlayList&p=3031D90C1195AEB3&index=0&playnext=1

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Mar 22 2009 09:21pm

Skeptics such as James Randi described the film as "a fantasy docudrama" and "[a] rampant example of abuse by charlatans and cults."[20] The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry dismisses it as "a hodgepodge of all kinds of crackpot nonsense," where "science [is] distorted and sensationalized."[21] A BBC reviewer described it as "a documentary aimed at the totally gullible."[22]

Journalist John Gorenfeld, writing in Salon, notes that the film's three directors are students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment, which he describes as having been called a "cult."[18]


taken from Wikipedia, so i guess im not the only one who said wtf when watching a lot of it.
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Mar 22 2009 09:24pm
* David Albert, a philosopher of physics and professor at Columbia University, who according to a Popular Science article, is "outraged at the final product," because the filmmakers interviewed him about quantum mechanics unrelated to consciousness or spirituality, and then edited the material in such a way that he feels misrepresented his views.[17]


ha, the video makers took this guy in the beginning when talking about the double slit experiment and stuff and then skewed the movie into a spiritual thing.
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Mar 22 2009 10:13pm
i watched the first 40-50 minutes, and yeah, it was esoteric nonsense. At one point, they were making the claim that our thoughts travel into backwards in time.

The film has been criticized for misrepresenting science[5][6][7][8] and containing pseudoscience,[5][6] and has been described as quantum mysticism.[9]

http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/bleep/

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/reelscience/reviews/whatthe_bleep/

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Mar 23 2009 12:29am
Yeah, I'd say this would be great for the random crap forum, but not really the science forum.
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Mar 23 2009 04:35pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Sun, Mar 22 2009, 11:29pm)
Yeah, I'd say this would be great for the random crap forum, but not really the science forum.


well the begining about the double slit experiment is true untill it talks about how the whole process changes when an observer is present correct
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Mar 24 2009 12:33pm
This is just as bad as Expelled.
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Mar 24 2009 02:35pm
Quote (heepajunk @ Tue, Mar 24 2009, 11:33am)
This is just as bad as Expelled.


dont compare the two.
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Mar 24 2009 02:57pm
well they are both a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
I would consider Expelled far more sinister, though.
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