the way the torc charges----out instead of up
how the mortar barely shoots up when hip fired
how you cant die as leader in CTL that needs to be changed either the gametype or the idea of it
the range of the active gnasher
how the retro lancer maintains decent accuracy when sprayed
how shitty the snub nose is
how shitty the gorgon is
how the boom shield is garbage
the small range of the ink when it explodes
how grenades are useless when planted
how useless meat shields are
how you can beat down through a meat shield
how the scorcher is garbage for a pick up
how stupid the bots are (in CTL they just charge)
how bots still count as full point even though they are easy to kill
the large possibility of tying in a shotgun fight
how picking up a weapon or ammo outranks picking up a teammate or leader

This post was edited by brigadier on May 8 2011 10:00pm

Hmm...

1. Don't care cuz I don't use the torch so I won't say.
2. Agreed.
3. No, EXCEPT for the fact that HE CAN USE GRENADES WHILE DOWNED but he wont die...which IS op, that needs to change.
4. I AGREE >.>
5. Meh, it's a close range weapon with a large spread when aimed...so.
6. Agreed
7. Used it 3 times, destroyed with it
8. Agreed
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. Sometimes
12. YES
13. Meh i've seen it used well.
14. Yea lol...beta though.
15. LOL XD Friend got 100 straight bot games or something.
16. Yea...hate the shotgun ness.
17. Yep...people are stupid.

The meatshield is amazing idk what your talking about, it makes it easy to win 2v1's

The frag plants are finally good though. Maybe you didn't play gow2 but they were extremely gay.

Also bots need to be removed from ranked tdm.

the way the torc charges----out instead of up
how the mortar barely shoots up when hip fired - Always been this way, mortars would shoot straight if you hip fired it.....
how you cant die as leader in CTL - bad gametype, the way its set up. Should change back to old guardian
the range of the active gnasher - Eh, should be changed a bit.
how the retro lancer maintains decent accuracy when sprayed - Only at gnasher distance
how shitty the snub nose is - Just needs ROF cap taken off
how shitty the gorgon is - It's automatic now, of course damage is going to be lowered.
how the boom shield is garbage - When hasn't it been?
the small range of the ink when it explodes - Stun makes up for that, takes more timing and accuracy to get a kill with it now, good for choke points though
how grenades are useless when planted - Lol they're not
how useless meat shields are - How so?
how you can beat down through a meat shield - GoW2 meatshields were way too spongy
how the scorcher is garbage for a pick up - Yea, its kind of weaker than GoW2
how stupid the bots are (in CTL they just charge) - Bots are bots lol, they're based off a percentage
how bots still count as full point even though they are easy to kill - ...............................................
the large possibility of tying in a shotgun fight - .............................................
how picking up a weapon or ammo outranks picking up a teammate or leader - Picking up weapon/ammo you have to hold X, to pick up a teamate you press X once

frags are fine but inks and incin are terrible



no played more gow2 than youd know and the meatshield is terrible in this
i agree that they need to be completely removed from tmd

wish i had a beta key =/

cry cry cry cry cry cry cry

it will be fine man. its just a beta. they will fix stuff

Good observations.

The thing that really sucked about the beta was that is cost money and by the time I got it there was only like 4 days left