Gnasher needs a range decrease, Retro if you're charging/In red bar, SHOULD win vs someone revving the lancer.

Damage/recoil is fine on the Retro, it's a close up weapon.

Maybe active decrease.

On the Gnasher? Yea i could go with active decrease.

I still find the fact you can charge someone, and they can just rev the chainsaw and kill you bs though.

should be able to win if you're red barred on your charge.

I had no idea that chainsaw would kill you mid charge. I find that kind of bullshit though, yea, it should be different.

Friend has it, so I was playing. Guy was revving and i charged him, 3/4 charge ( so red bar, insta kill range)

Just...bam, dead.

And the fact Gansher > Retro lancer in pure damage. which is bull, even at long range.

Retro is not supposed to be good at long range, it's got that retarded bloom for a reason. Only thing Retro is good for is blindfire and spraying from gnasher range.

Well even then, I was playing earlier on Old Town...

I'm easily within limit of REGULAR lancer range, and a gnasher downs me in 3 shots...which is bull.

Probably active reloads, because I haven't had a problem, or even been able to down people from that far away with regular L-trig Gnasher shots. Or it could be host advantage, because dedicated servers aren't always running (may not be up at all atm)

This is true, but there's always been an issue with the gnasher being too long ranged.

Can't hurt to nurf it a bit.

I don't disagree. Wouldn't be a bad idea.