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Jul 6 2018 04:27pm
Never built a zon on classic, and kinda want to...
lmk what i need and dont need and what i should be maxing :P
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Jul 6 2018 05:37pm
anyone?
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Jul 6 2018 07:57pm
generally the idea for classic bowazons is to try to build solely around freezing arrow and mana leech to try to offset the huge mana cost, even at the expense of dps from higher pierce or wizendraw's -% resists.
even if its got gimpy speed, a 6x pskull ballista is probably the most efficient way to be able to shoot more than a handful of freezing arrows before your mana pots are all gone.

its hard to understand how incredibly bad bowazons are in classic. Even going out for 2x sojs and points into energy, maybe even frosties over ias gloves or deaths, you're talking about a build that shoots 1500 damage freezing arrows when hdins are doing 7-9k. Sure it can pierce and shotgun a bit, but its not like the aoe on hammers/blizzard/ce/orb/etc, and you run out of mana insanely fast, and the only item to reduce resists is wizendraw which means no mana sustain.

as far as physical damage- its totally irrelevant beyond mana leech. Even if you had a 200% ed 20% ias +2 zon +20 dex +20 max ballista, even with 500 dexterity, you're talking about multi dealing ~1.1k damage, reduced by 50% DR, against monsters with 100k+ life in players 8 chaos for uniques
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Jul 6 2018 10:35pm
Any classic bowzon can be very strong once she gets a good Gothic bow or Rune bow. Either of these bows should have a perfect skull. A classic bowzon should use :

1.1 Gothic bow
1.2 Rune bow
2. Howltusk
3. Twitchtroe (60 def.)
4. Goblin toe (60%ed if possible) for the crushing blow
5. Any pair of gloves with IAS (Bloodfist or rare gloves if you need resists)

A good Gothic bow usually starts to have a good damage at 100 dmg, but it's still low if you want to chaos in hell with her. A 100 dmg Gothic bow can be dropped at Nm chaos. A godly Gothic bow is probably 140+ dmg.
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Jul 7 2018 12:01pm
Pm speedoflight @jsp.
Think he has a link to a good guide
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Jul 8 2018 12:58pm
The best Bowazon guides, written by the real master of Amazons, Kylva aka Lubna. He knows how to touch that stuff and I've never met a more experienced person than him. It's long, but really worth it. Enjoy!

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74323110&f=57&p=502979857#p502979857
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Jul 9 2018 03:32am
I would second the hybrid cold/physical build.

Slow and not very safe, but able to clean hell solo (Diablo himself is very tough...).

My current build :
rare Ballista (ias, ed, dext, -%req)
Twitchroe
Sigon helm and gloves
amulet +2skills, mana leech, resistances
Goldwrap (helpful ias)
Goblin toe
manald heal
rare ring (min/max, mana leech, attack rating)

maxed : Freezing arrow, cold arrow [damage synergy], strafe
some into pierce, critical, valkyrie
remainig : decoy

Some points into vitality, strength for items, rest into dexterity (currently I've around 380).

Against most targets, it's possible to leech mana with freezing arrow at the same rate you spend it, allowing inifinite freezing arrows.
If mana is somehow lacking, use strafe a couple of time to recharge your mana pool.
Against non leechable targets (for example physical immuned), use potions.
When you feel unsafe, use potions and run back.

The idea is to remain untouched, hidden behind decoy and valkyrie.
Many kills are performed off-screen.

And what Goomshill said : bowazons are the worst chars to play classic pvm with.
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Quote (SpeedOfLight @ Jul 8 2018 12:58pm)
The best Bowazon guides, written by the real master of Amazons, Kylva aka Lubna. He knows how to touch that stuff and I've never met a more experienced person than him. It's long, but really worth it. Enjoy!

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74323110&f=57&p=502979857#p502979857


you have to keep in mind, this is an all-in glass cannon build that totally forfeits survivability and uses almost the godliest bow possible in classic- yet it only deals about ~960 avg. physical per strafe arrow after crit, against mostly 33-50% DR monsters. Even on classic hammerdins deal 9k vs ~0% resist, blizz can deal 3.5-5k vs -100% resist, ww barbs hit for up to 2.8-3k @ 4 fpa, and javazons can deal up to 750x12 furies or 2060x8 cs. Just to kill a 128k HP 50% dr P8 infector of souls would take 266+ arrows. And this is a build with ~350-450 hp and no block, no resists, which dies when sneezed upon. The only thing they really have going for them is piercing strafe or multi at least hitting multiple targets per shot, but the very low amounts of spread out damage are insufficient even for taking on hell players 1 without it being a very slow grind.

its technically possible to build pure physical bowazons on classic, but boy are they insanely underpowered compared to even bad builds. Javazons run around using stacks of non-magical javelins and work far better, and they're still almost unheard of. I just want to impress upon anyone thinking of making a bowazon in classic that they suck horribly and pure physical sucks most of all.

freezing arrow is more competent, but its just like a really bad sorceress when you get down to it. You need to jump through big hurdles to manage the mana usage and then you're left with a mediocre cold damage aoe that doesn't have -175% enemy cold resist like a sorc does. It can pierce and shotgun, and it freezes mobs, but even piercing its damage output is sad compared to other builds, and its freeze length is actually really short even when the synergy is maxed because its reduced to 25% in hell and reduced by cold resist, so a 75% cold resist monster hit by 4 a second freeze lasts 0.25 seconds. Can be improved with eye of etlich or wizendraw or other +item cold length

as feanur said as I said: bowazons are the worst chars to play classic pvm with. besides double throw barbarians
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Jul 9 2018 04:02am
That's true, this guy has a kicky bow. Bowazons only suck and die unless you know how to play them. You have to find the missing pleasure while playing her everywhere, which can be hard being an old pal/sorc player. Strafe/freezing bowa is the best one in my opinion, especially following Lubna's guide. And if you still have any questions, try to catch him on Euscnl, he will surely know the answer. Bowazons are manaholics, that's right, but come on, that's why we have Mana Leech and potions. Don't the sorcs need mana? I would recommend you playing on a strafe/freezing zon, it's a totally different experience than playing on other, stronger classes. You don't have to run Chaos Sanctuary, which is actually not so hard (on 1 ppl game!), because there are only Oblivion Knights with cold immune. And come on, you can have other players in team - a nec is the best team member for your ama. Bosses like: Stormtree, Bone Ash, Sarina are waiting for you! It's not true that the bowazons are underpowered, it's other classes that are overpowered!
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Jul 9 2018 04:10am
Just dont listen to 0perator
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