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Feb 22 2023 12:30am
Now that sunders and abilities have been nerfed so stuff that pierces beyond the sunder works at 1/5th effectiveness, I am curious about opinions on the viability of Doom for a Cold Sorceress. Even with Infinity and lots of Cold Mastery, adding Doom does not cap a cold immune enemy on negative resist, and I'm thinking that the goal is to shoot for maximizing damage on cold immunes since non-immunes just die instantly anyway. Since items that reduce enemy resistance still seem to work at full effectiveness with sunders, it seems like Doom would add a huge effective multiplier against these types of enemies.
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Feb 22 2023 08:31am
seems like a good idea. cold sorc don't need a lot of fcr. voice of reason has -cold res too if you want a budget option to test before you invest in a doom.

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Quote (GhostofthePast @ Feb 22 2023 12:30am)
Now that sunders and abilities have been nerfed so stuff that pierces beyond the sunder works at 1/5th effectiveness, I am curious about opinions on the viability of Doom for a Cold Sorceress. Even with Infinity and lots of Cold Mastery, adding Doom does not cap a cold immune enemy on negative resist, and I'm thinking that the goal is to shoot for maximizing damage on cold immunes since non-immunes just die instantly anyway. Since items that reduce enemy resistance still seem to work at full effectiveness with sunders, it seems like Doom would add a huge effective multiplier against these types of enemies.


Players 1 or 8?

I would use death's fathom because most monster's are not immune to cold.
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Quote (BoomTitties @ Feb 22 2023 08:09am)
Players 1 or 8?

I would use death's fathom because most monster's are not immune to cold.


Death's Fathom is just going to have me overkilling most mobs even more I think. There are of course some mobs that would take longer that could be shortened with more +damage intensive gear. I just feel that most people really stack up extra damage to a useless degree just to see some number get higher but like with the build I've planned out the math puts the DPS high enough to kill Baal's Minions in less than a second on P8.
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Quote (GhostofthePast @ Feb 22 2023 01:40pm)
Death's Fathom is just going to have me overkilling most mobs even more I think. There are of course some mobs that would take longer that could be shortened with more +damage intensive gear. I just feel that most people really stack up extra damage to a useless degree just to see some number get higher but like with the build I've planned out the math puts the DPS high enough to kill Baal's Minions in less than a second on P8.


how much damage?

If you do enough damage -%30 to -%50 will be enough.
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Quote (BoomTitties @ Feb 23 2023 04:56am)
how much damage?

If you do enough damage -%30 to -%50 will be enough.


14-23k DPS to cold immunes with just Blizzard, Frozen Orb supplementing damage (can go Blizzard>Orb>Orb>Blizzard>Orb>reset) and that's with the cold immunes still only getting -27% cold resist with a 60% Doom. The range is based on the mob being a unique with cold enchanted as well.
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14-23k DPS to cold immunes with just Blizzard, Frozen Orb supplementing damage (can go Blizzard>Orb>Orb>Blizzard>Orb>reset) and that's with the cold immunes still only getting -27% cold resist with a 60% Doom. The range is based on the mob being a unique with cold enchanted as well.


yeah your right doom is better with your gear.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/iz0106zy

just change out doom and fathom. Doom wins by 2x

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yeah your right doom is better with your gear.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/iz0106zy

just change out doom and fathom. Doom wins by 2x


Gear I planned for 105 FCR was Viper, 35 Spirit Monarch, Arach and Trang Gloves. Using Trang Gloves because they have 30 cold res which helps offset the sunder easier, Viper because the resist and it being socketable with an other facet, plus the FCR makes jewelry easier. Overall it's pretty attainable to get Doom/Spirit/Nightwing's/Mara's/SoJs/Trang Gloves and some resist boots. Then chase items become swapping Viper for Blizzard Ormus, Mara's for a 2/20 amulet with resists and PLR, and Arach's out for VMagi while swapping one ring to a good FCR ring.
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