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Feb 6 2023 11:11am
Yo, figured i check out the hybrid wolf/elemental druid again for fun and to help a friend exploring the build.
I will post perf item stats etc, theese builds typical revolves around eth earthshifter and you need massive strenght, and as you can see resists are hard to come by.

Wolf of the Winds:
The idea here is to be a hybrid between nado druid and werewolf, first look is 68fcr, but can easely use 99fcr as well at the cost of mainly DR%.
It can cast fully syntenergized twisters on strike. Theese adds some stuns and dmg a little as well...
The important thing to have in mind here is:
Attaclspeed Breakpoint: 5/4/4/4/7
lvl 31 werewolf: 40 ias requirement on fury
lvl 30 werewolf: 42 ias requirement on fury
lvl 26 werewolf: 44 ias requirement on fury
Fcr breakpoints:
Human - Wolf
46 - 40
68 - 60
99 - 95

EQ:
Earthshifter
cta / demon limb + spirit (precast ench from stash)
Enigma
Gores / Shadows(for fhr) / Hots (for abs)
10fcr/ar/str/dex/mana/@ Ring
10fcr/ar/str/dex/mana/@ Ring
2dru/19fcr/life/@ Ammu
Magefists/Trangs
Verdungo
Highlord

Inventory:
Torch
Annie
9 x ele lifers (put fhr ones if need)
10 x life/5@

Stats with perfect items:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/b501068t
5/4/4/4/7 FPA fury
68 fcr
10fhr(shadows or fhr skillers if want more)
105 frw
CNBF
6,4k Nado damage
2,8k hurricane
1249-6880 fury damage
52% deadly strike
43% crushing blow
10% ow
25% chance to cast lvl 14 fissure for dramatic effect.
Attack rating: 660*(1+((218+485+99+170)/100)) = 7075
Life human No oak: 3282
Life human oak: 4892
Life wolf No oak: 5160
Life wolf oak: 6770
All life stats was missing 60 base life from life ammu, had str ammu on when checking xD

Wolf of the winds 99fcr version:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/wi0106bg
Swap carrions for raven if want CNBF.
This version have same attackspeed breakpoint, more res, but only 8% dr. It also up nado damage to 6,8k.
Nice vs forexample nec and hammers... Or sorc etc...

Hellhound:
The idea here is fireskills + wolf.
Else it works just the same as Wolf of the Winds.
The dramatic effect of 25% ctc fissure also starts dealing some damage, meanwhile carrions ctc will deal almost no dmg, but will add swirl stun.

Same gear, both for 68 and 99fcr.

Here is a quick link, i optimalised physical part of skills, one can syntenergies in the way of more fire damage. I put 20 moulten boulder here.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/9v010602
Fissure: 2,8k fire dmg
Volcano: 2,2k fire + 1,4k physical
Armageddon: 6,1k fire dmg + 4,1k physical with 1,2k fire burning damage
Moulten boulder: 2,1k physical + 0,6k fire damage + 0,5k burning fire dmg
Firestorm: 2,9k fire dmg.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ji02063d
Same version more focused on fire dmg:
Fissure: 4,7k fire dmg
Volcano: 2,4k fire + 0,4k physical
Armageddon: 5,7k fire dmg + 4,1k physical with 1,1k fire burning damage
Moulten boulder: 1k physical + 0,7k fire damage + 0,6k burning fire dmg
Firestorm: 4,4k fire dmg.

Wolf fury stats are ofc the same as Wolf of the Winds...

I prefer the physical related skilling on fireskills... However the fire version has better CTC effect from earthshifter.

Good for pvm as well...
Ofc one can find ways of using coa as well in theese builds...

Next post in this topic i will re-visit the stormlash build, the destruction build and the pheonix build etc.

If there is interest i might try to make a more economical build. But you know it's not a human right to have visio in helm, or 30 str in items etc... Same items, less stats etc works as well... Using a none eth earthshifter will ofc hurt ur fury damage, but it will make room for forexample shael for 20ias. And then only 1 more ias source is needed.

If one add a none eth Earthshifter ur physical fury dmg will go down by some, but if socet 15ias/15@ in combi with 15ias/15@ ravenlore one would get more fire dmg if one is able to pierce enemy, it would also require to swap 1 ele gc with a shape gc.

This post was edited by gel87 on Feb 6 2023 11:37am
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Feb 6 2023 11:18am
I've seen this build where fire skills were maxxed instead of nado/hurricane


The CTC fissure synergizes from fire skills.. I think that's the whole appeal of the build and then you also get Armageddon.


I don't understand the wind version of this. Do you mean horizon's tornado or something that casts wind attacks instead of earthshifter?
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Feb 6 2023 11:33am
Quote (organicgreens519 @ Feb 6 2023 06:18pm)
I've seen this build where fire skills were maxxed instead of nado/hurricane


The CTC fissure synergizes from fire skills.. I think that's the whole appeal of the build and then you also get Armageddon.


I don't understand the wind version of this. Do you mean horizon's tornado or something that casts wind attacks instead of earthshifter?


I see that ur eyes on this is mainly pvm... Where u stand in wolf shape hitting monsters over and over again and add ctc effects..

The hybridisation is mainly for pvp. Where u add spells who dont care what the defense or enemy block is(well tornado is partly blockable and volcano is as well, but u get the point)
So u add ranged spells to mix up for where u struggle as a wolf. At the cost of SEVERAL other stuff ofc xD

The ctc stuff is just a minor bonus too theese excact things:
On the fire based build that lvl 14 ctc fissure dmg is only: 770 damage
On the firebuild who focus on physical dmg on fire skills the lvl 14 ctc fissure is only: 489 damage
On the wind related wolf that lvl 14 ctc fissure dmg is only: 150 dmg.
On the wind related wolf the twister ctc dmg is: 300
On the fireskills related wolf the twister ctc dmg is: 60

A stormlash wolf will use stormlash.
It has a relevant physical fury dmg, its in a -10wsm base, it has 20% chance to cast lvl 18 nado who u can syntenergies. It also add nice CB and can be combined with a shield.
Destruction has ctc volcano.
Pheonix has ctc firestorm and - enemy fire res.

This post was edited by gel87 on Feb 6 2023 11:40am
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Feb 6 2023 12:06pm
gel thank you again for making such a wonderful guides :)

I was thinking about making same fire skills as u but change the built a bit or at least cube boo so u can have option of 2 hander / weapon +ss / spirit.

aint sure regarding this 2 hander is good enough.? not better tomb reaver?

Quote (organicgreens519 @ Feb 6 2023 07:18pm)
I've seen this build where fire skills were maxxed instead of nado/hurricane


The CTC fissure synergizes from fire skills.. I think that's the whole appeal of the build and then you also get Armageddon.


I don't understand the wind version of this. Do you mean horizon's tornado or something that casts wind attacks instead of earthshifter?


if it was in the past few month u probably seen me playing it xD



ps. maybe better to go some shifter sks 5-6 and max it with 3/20/20 scs for more ar on fury hits?

This post was edited by DonOmerlol on Feb 6 2023 12:09pm
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Feb 6 2023 01:28pm
so i basically made the same build you have with few switches :

6x shapeshift 45 lifers
max/ar/life scs rest and some 20/5allress scs

I run 100 fcr at all time with max dr maxblock allress with option to switch stormshield to phoenix aka more fire damage + more ed damage for fury.
the wep i use is 40 ias grief PB, rest is fcr rings 2/20 amy 2/20 circlet and trangs.

switch is : spirit / cta

skills i did almost the same, max wolf form 1x fury rest synrgie in fire

I 1-2 hit necros with grief pb if i land fully fury hit , it will be max 2 hit while maintaining 12k AR (without enchant) , fissure / armagedon/ molten core / volcano as passive so people gotta try aggro u or at least u can go damage whitin range, trying to mindgame either jump morph fury hit or chain 1-2 tele and try morphfury,

it interesting gameplay wise since I do nice damage even if ppl take some abs hotspur etc :)

This post was edited by DonOmerlol on Feb 6 2023 01:29pm
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Feb 6 2023 03:48pm
So we are leveling as fire and adding some wolf form for support or vice versa?
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Feb 6 2023 04:43pm
Quote (Loratex @ Feb 6 2023 10:48pm)
So we are leveling as fire and adding some wolf form for support or vice versa?


Pvm would be easiest as fire druid, depending on what wepons you have availeble. If u start from scratch itemwise, then melee is extreamly though through NM. But if p1 its easier.
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Feb 6 2023 05:25pm
Quote (DonOmerlol @ Feb 6 2023 07:06pm)
gel thank you again for making such a wonderful guides :)

I was thinking about making same fire skills as u but change the built a bit or at least cube boo so u can have option of 2 hander / weapon +ss / spirit.

aint sure regarding this 2 hander is good enough.? not better tomb reaver?



if it was in the past few month u probably seen me playing it xD



ps. maybe better to go some shifter sks 5-6 and max it with 3/20/20 scs for more ar on fury hits?


Well, it does not Hurt to have some 3max/ar/life lying around. And those will quickly improve ar. Statting dex for more ar is ofc a Key factor as well :) but the issue with Main setup is the resists.

But I dont see it very viable to use both earthshifter and max block setup. Due to the reason that earthshifter need tons if strengt. Even if u would have a separate setup where all those rares/craft are with dex, and changing gores for shadow thats still pretty far off, fcr rings already have dex, so one are left with 20helm, 20ammu, 25 shadows and thats only 65 extra dex on ur way to 200+...

But with a token or two, one can mix a lot.

When it comes to direct fury dmg per hit the eth earthshifter is very simular to eth tomb, but eth tomb has faster fpa.

Quote (DonOmerlol @ Feb 6 2023 08:28pm)
so i basically made the same build you have with few switches :

6x shapeshift 45 lifers
max/ar/life scs rest and some 20/5allress scs

I run 100 fcr at all time with max dr maxblock allress with option to switch stormshield to phoenix aka more fire damage + more ed damage for fury.
the wep i use is 40 ias grief PB, rest is fcr rings 2/20 amy 2/20 circlet and trangs.

switch is : spirit / cta

skills i did almost the same, max wolf form 1x fury rest synrgie in fire

I 1-2 hit necros with grief pb if i land fully fury hit , it will be max 2 hit while maintaining 12k AR (without enchant) , fissure / armagedon/ molten core / volcano as passive so people gotta try aggro u or at least u can go damage whitin range, trying to mindgame either jump morph fury hit or chain 1-2 tele and try morphfury,

it interesting gameplay wise since I do nice damage even if ppl take some abs hotspur etc :)


Well this is very close to my fury/rabies.
Unfurnately rabies was crap in d2r, and the one char i bothered to make was that druid. So my plan for it is to just use a token and add more to oak, and then buff grizzly instead of rabies. I was thinking of the firestorm, but when thinking more about it i saw that just adding a Phoenix would take away most my dr%, my block etc and only be viable vs nec/fire sorc/java/pure trapsins and hammers. Meanwhile a buffed grizzly and oak etc will help me a lot in form of survival which is the thing my wolf lacked. The firestorm damage will be effective vs none absers etc, the abs and the ed% has its nice features as well.

I use:
grief ba/grief pb + storm 15ias/res // eth tomb - cta/demonlimb + spirit
1dru/20fcr/30frw/decent ads/cham
Eni
Trangs
Gores/inferno(plan for shadows as well)
10fcr/adds ring
Fcr/Raven/wisp etc
Hl
Arach

Shape sks
Torch
Annie
Selffound scs

Might not remember all perfect, been some months since I last saw him.

However, I think i can sneak in some hybrid and trihybrid wolf tomorrow, I made some guides very early but I plan on just making them again to be certain about ias breaks etc.
Those wolves will mainly act as:
- Stormlash ctc nado (almost full wolf + syntenergised nado)
- Stormlash ctc nado + firestorm (party wolf + syntenergies nado and firestorm)
- More wolf direct based fury, with syntenergised firestorm
- Caster + ctc wolf something, either stormlash or Phoenix. Dno yet, also i dno yet which caster skill to be used mainly, but I guess volcano due to range. I dno yet, I will play around in maxroll, min/max and see what it turns out like xD
- maby some destruction build.

Without thinking about any +fire% items this is the damage of:
Ctc lvl 18 nado fully syntenergies:
273 × (1+(540/100)) = 1747 nado damage.

Firestorm fully syntenergies:
111 × (1+(720/100)) = 910 firestorm damage per second. I think 2 snakes can hit player at once, so we are many dealing double of that. Still not extreame...

So in my eyes firestorm is not the best. Works for pvm, but many People will put hots... and then we are kinda not doing much there. Hots also adds 45 fire res, and that will stack pretty well even vs dual phoenix..

I cant really check much now cause im on Phone xD
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Feb 7 2023 12:23am
How about this weapon? In old d2 is pretty decent.

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Feb 7 2023 01:27am
Quote (cantero @ Feb 7 2023 07:23am)
How about this weapon? In old d2 is pretty decent.

https://i.imgur.com/t8O71R2.png


Fully syntenergied its 607 damage on twisters.
Ias is nice.
50CB is decent, especially in pvm.
Direct damage is a little low.
But i Like it :)


Destruction lvl 12 cano = 168 physical + 232 fire damage, so not much. Only 23% ctc.

So all in all for pvp i would say 1,7k nado casts at 20% ctc on eth stormlash would be decent. Its +2 range adder, one can carry a shield etc... -10wsm, 33% cb, 30ias, some light dmg, static does a little, 16-480 direct damge... So around 250 average damage(not high)
Maby combine with ctc amp(atma's ammu) or team nec.

The main idea with earthshifter is ofc the high damage and the 7 elemental skills. (which are 2 more skills to ele than hoto + spirit, 4 more than suicide + spirit). And since fire skills now have decent physical damage at higher level this works great, even though we dont have massive place for facets etc...

This post was edited by gel87 on Feb 7 2023 01:27am
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