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Feb 3 2023 01:14am
Any unique builds off meta that viable for pvp ?
Couldn’t manage to find anything viable. Kicksin is bad atm, telewolf to slow. Anything ive missed?
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Feb 3 2023 02:48am
light zon is surpringly good in pubs

plague/physical throw also works if you can find a high damage erep javelin
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Feb 3 2023 06:03am
Telewolf? Shifters can't tele.
Javazon, Infi zon or 3hybrid zon, especially in pubs since people don't overstack res there. But wouldn't call it meta.
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Feb 3 2023 06:03am
java/mage/es light
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Feb 3 2023 06:41am
Maybe Throw Barb ? Or how they work these days.

Also some hybrids like Mage ?

Also Goomshill made a good point about tri-zons some years ago.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 1 2011 12:50am)
Faith Shadow Bow
Eth Titans (or godly 400/40/4/eth/rep javas)
Stormshield
Enigma
Griffon's Eye (15/15)
+2 javas / 20% ias / knockback rare glove (+resists)
Arachs
Rare all resists boots
1x FCR ring (+resists, stats, etc)
1x Ravenfrost
+2 Zon 17%+ FCR amulet
9x Java/Life Skillers (nn fhr on zon)
10x 20/5 scs
Torch/Anni
Sub charm slots out as necessary for cube or directly placed CTA- 1 less skiller and 1 less sc works, or 2 less skillers for cta in inventory (much easier to swap out without dropping it)

20 plague
20 poison
20 charged strike
20 lightning fury
1 guided arrow
1 d/a/e
1 valk (might as well if you get slow missiles for pubs- otherwise you can skip these points for more CS damage)
1 crit/penetrate/pierce
rest lightning bolt- remember this is used over fury against BvA's
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Feb 3 2023 07:33am
Quote (gratek @ Feb 3 2023 01:03pm)
Telewolf? Shifters can't tele.
Javazon, Infi zon or 3hybrid zon, especially in pubs since people don't overstack res there. But wouldn't call it meta.


3hybrid is nice!
Quote (gel87 @ Aug 21 2022 03:27pm)
Amazons:

Tele 3 hybrid:
Here is a maxed out 3hybrid zon. With exception of jav which is far from maxed^^ Could be eth and 450 ed and so on.
Ofc i know theese perf items most likely wont ever exist.
But you see here what we aim for. Which stats that are important etc.
You can easely turn down stats and see how low u can go if u like... (dont forget resists... ive seen plenty of ama guides around with -23 resists in hell....)

The build is an extreamly effective build. However it require skills to play this right.
It has all the attacks an amazon would want, but its damage is lower.
Which means it deals "low" damage in an unexperienced hand, but has the tool's to win any setup for a skilled player.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/q80106fq

Osama build:
This is the tele hybrid version, aka osama build... It has more bow damage and more skills in the psn skills... But it does not have CS... Its bolt and fury dmg works good due to physical damage in javs.
It uses the same items as 3hybrid, but different charms and different skilling.

Walk hybrid:
Bow + Plague are boosted, with lvl 1 fury and bolt which works good as well.
Standard bow gear, but skilled plague. And 3 java skillers....
If plague aint allowed by ur combat rules, just skill passive skills instead, and change java sks with max/ar/life scs.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/6k0106ix



Quote (Soppamies @ Feb 3 2023 01:41pm)
Maybe Throw Barb ? Or how they work these days.

Also some hybrids like Mage ?

Also Goomshill made a good point about tri-zons some years ago.


Throw barb kinda lacks wsm bug to be good. I used to be able to run 700 damage ghost glaive in combi with lacerator amp on d2 lod with 40fcr/decent dr/decent res/48fhr and 4fpa. Now ur sacrificing all ur other relevant gear to reach 4,5 fpa, and with good gear only 5fpa and lower damage javs....
It can be used, but i don't think its stronger than in d2lod.

BVC is not special, but its extreamly fun though! :D

Melee sorc is fun:
Psn dagger Sorc aka melee sorc:
Made now PSN DAGGER SORK!
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/gb01068n

No precast is involved, venom from arach is equipped.

Stats speaks for itself:
75% es (if u bother precast u get: 6 more from es memory, 3 more from helm, 1 more from ammu, 1 more from secondary soj, 2 more from 3es ormus = 88%. I did not even bother making it xD)
20 base tk
U can also go all in and precast enchant: 5 more Chant/fire mastery orb, 9 more via skillers, 3 more via helm(and 2 facets), 1 more via ammu, 3 more via 3ench ormus and 20% FEUER, 1 more magefist, 1 more secondary soj. = 25 more skills to fire mastery and enchant and 30% fire increase on top.
75% block
3,2k mana
1,3k life
good resists

Oki now dmg profiles(no chest precast).
Venom/Psn dagger psn damage: 945-1163 over 3,6 seconds(remember the -100 plr in hell)
Light damage: 115-66600
Fire damage: 2045-2416
Cold dmg: 1-6
physical dmg: 64-479
Sums up at: 3170 - 70739 damage!
Attacks per second: 9pfa aka 2,77 attacks pr second.

Thunder storm: 2548-3190

Holy shock aura:
6-3368 at long range
12-6736 at close range
and ofc 2 ticks of this pr time.

Lr cast from knife:
-43 enemy res.

Ofc u can choose or find sword with same stats but zeal charges.

Attack raing base: 75+1630+1733+120 = 3558
Bonuses:
Enchant: 299%
Psn dagger: 110%
Zeal: 40%

Full ar on psn dagger: 18110

Zeal attackspeed and ar:
3,28 attacks per second.
Full ar on zeal: 15619

But all in all i would say bladesin seems really cool now.
I did some math on my build with a shitty fool's claw with 50 average damage and dmg number and ar became 26k dmg and 26k ar average!

Here u can see build ideas:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=94840990&f=87&o=0

I would actually combine it with other traps, so using a runic is probarly better than war fist.

So:
Runic 40ias/fool's/LOLO is like already awsome stats by themselves and can give you 26k ar and 26k damage(average)
Like this:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/nr0106mo

Anyway:
I think this is optimal claw.
If u decide to go trap as well u may tune down ur skills on BF/BShield/BSentinel to get more trap dmg... Its a matter of taste...
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/5d01068y

With this build it would be sick, i think 2 assa skills > any eth/Cruel mods etc....

2trap/3BF/3LS/3Fade/40ias/Fool's/LoLo claw + 2 x 322 scs, phoenix, etc:
(24min+99max)/2 = 61,5

Blade damage:
((WeponAndEqAvgDmg*0,75)+SkillDirectDmg)*(1+(((Str+Dex)*0,75)+GearEd%+CMed%)/100)) * (1+(DoubleDamage/100)) = Damage

Blade Fury:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+1470)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 30067 average damage.
Attack rating: (80+1440+250+120+1633+40) * (1+((218+350+99+440)/100)) = 43005 AR!

Blade Shield:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+1367,5)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 28034 average damage.
Attack rating: 27328

Blade sentinel:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+930)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 13408 average damage.
Attack rating: 27328
Not bad for a 61,5 average damage wepon.
So don't listen to all that wants you to use death BA, Botd, Grief, dual claw etc.. This is how you deal massive dmg...
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Quote (gel87 @ Feb 3 2023 03:33pm)
3hybrid is nice!





Throw barb kinda lacks wsm bug to be good. I used to be able to run 700 damage ghost glaive in combi with lacerator amp on d2 lod with 40fcr/decent dr/decent res/48fhr and 4fpa. Now ur sacrificing all ur other relevant gear to reach 4,5 fpa, and with good gear only 5fpa and lower damage javs....
It can be used, but i don't think its stronger than in d2lod.

BVC is not special, but its extreamly fun though! :D

Melee sorc is fun:
Psn dagger Sorc aka melee sorc:
Made now PSN DAGGER SORK!
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/gb01068n

No precast is involved, venom from arach is equipped.

Stats speaks for itself:
75% es (if u bother precast u get: 6 more from es memory, 3 more from helm, 1 more from ammu, 1 more from secondary soj, 2 more from 3es ormus = 88%. I did not even bother making it xD)
20 base tk
U can also go all in and precast enchant: 5 more Chant/fire mastery orb, 9 more via skillers, 3 more via helm(and 2 facets), 1 more via ammu, 3 more via 3ench ormus and 20% FEUER, 1 more magefist, 1 more secondary soj. = 25 more skills to fire mastery and enchant and 30% fire increase on top.
75% block
3,2k mana
1,3k life
good resists

Oki now dmg profiles(no chest precast).
Venom/Psn dagger psn damage: 945-1163 over 3,6 seconds(remember the -100 plr in hell)
Light damage: 115-66600
Fire damage: 2045-2416
Cold dmg: 1-6
physical dmg: 64-479
Sums up at: 3170 - 70739 damage!
Attacks per second: 9pfa aka 2,77 attacks pr second.

Thunder storm: 2548-3190

Holy shock aura:
6-3368 at long range
12-6736 at close range
and ofc 2 ticks of this pr time.

Lr cast from knife:
-43 enemy res.

Ofc u can choose or find sword with same stats but zeal charges.

Attack raing base: 75+1630+1733+120 = 3558
Bonuses:
Enchant: 299%
Psn dagger: 110%
Zeal: 40%

Full ar on psn dagger: 18110

Zeal attackspeed and ar:
3,28 attacks per second.
Full ar on zeal: 15619

But all in all i would say bladesin seems really cool now.
I did some math on my build with a shitty fool's claw with 50 average damage and dmg number and ar became 26k dmg and 26k ar average!

Here u can see build ideas:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=94840990&f=87&o=0

I would actually combine it with other traps, so using a runic is probarly better than war fist.

So:
Runic 40ias/fool's/LOLO is like already awsome stats by themselves and can give you 26k ar and 26k damage(average)
Like this:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/nr0106mo

Anyway:
I think this is optimal claw.
If u decide to go trap as well u may tune down ur skills on BF/BShield/BSentinel to get more trap dmg... Its a matter of taste...
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/5d01068y

With this build it would be sick, i think 2 assa skills > any eth/Cruel mods etc....

2trap/3BF/3LS/3Fade/40ias/Fool's/LoLo claw + 2 x 322 scs, phoenix, etc:
(24min+99max)/2 = 61,5

Blade damage:
((WeponAndEqAvgDmg*0,75)+SkillDirectDmg)*(1+(((Str+Dex)*0,75)+GearEd%+CMed%)/100)) * (1+(DoubleDamage/100)) = Damage

Blade Fury:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+1470)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 30067 average damage.
Attack rating: (80+1440+250+120+1633+40) * (1+((218+350+99+440)/100)) = 43005 AR!

Blade Shield:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+1367,5)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 28034 average damage.
Attack rating: 27328

Blade sentinel:
Damage: ((61,5*0,75)+930)*(1+(((171+308)*0,75)+400+163)/100))*1,94 = 13408 average damage.
Attack rating: 27328
Not bad for a 61,5 average damage wepon.
So don't listen to all that wants you to use death BA, Botd, Grief, dual claw etc.. This is how you deal massive dmg...


As always most surprising and unique builds out there :) pmed as well :) thanks for the info
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Feb 3 2023 09:00am
Quote (paweljonk @ Feb 3 2023 02:03pm)
java/mage/es light


hm i dont think java consider unique, its a bit more rare to see of course but motsly workign for pub games :) will be kinda crap for serious GM fights.

as for es light, Im thinking its kinda crap built that lack of range and cant do much even if played good but i might be worng, never seen any gg light sorc in d2r espacially when no more stuns etc xD u are free fresh
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Quote (DonOmerlol @ Feb 3 2023 04:00pm)
hm i dont think java consider unique, its a bit more rare to see of course but motsly workign for pub games :) will be kinda crap for serious GM fights.

as for es light, Im thinking its kinda crap built that lack of range and cant do much even if played good but i might be worng, never seen any gg light sorc in d2r espacially when no more stuns etc xD u are free fresh


Yeah but off meta is always crap compared to meta builds xD es light can be gg but i dont like it
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