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Dec 31 2022 06:40pm
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I built a few chars I've never tried before this season, and two of them I liked were auradin and phoenix javazon.

1.
Previously, phoenix javazon was thought to be a noob build, b/c with 40% chance, firestorm will delay your next attack. But this officially has been fixed, and firestorm no longer interrupts your attack!

This is why I wanted to build a javazon around phoenix, and ditch mana leech / mana after each kill mods.

2.
Here's what a perfect build will look like:

Griffon with -5/5 facet
6/40 maiden javelin (never use matriarchal)
Phoenix monarch
Enigma
2ama 20fcr with a lot of res
2/20 gloves with a lot of res
30/10 boots with a lot of res
Fcr ring with strength and a lot of res
Ravenfrost ring
Spiderweb sash

Swap: cta&spirit

Put charms according to what is missing.

Target: 80 lr, 75 pr, okay fr and okay cr. 32fhr.

3.
Because we don't need mana leech, life leech, and mana after each kill mods, we don't care if the base weapon is elite or not. Actually, normal or exceptional bases are preferred for low requirements.

The mods you only care about are resistances with the priority: lr>pr>fr>cr.

4.
The best (standard) build is:

Griffon with ias 15all res jewel
Eth titan
60ias 12maek jmod
Enigma
2 ama 20 fcr 20 all res mana leech ammy
2/20 with mana leech, lr, and maek caster gloves
30/10 tri-res boots
Fcr mana leech AR all res ring with mana
Ravenfrost ring
Spiderweb sash

In terms of dmg output, you lose 1frame, but gain 2 skills and a -5/5 facet jewel.

Didn't do detailed computation, but I think -5/5 facet jewel alone is better than 1frame. In other words, you still beat the best known build by using 4/40, while keeping all the benefit from phoenix.

Most importantly, 4/40 is not as expensive as 6/40!!

5.
Even so, 4/40~6/40 are difficult to find. So what I did was to buy 6/20 instead and keep the ias/res jool in the griffon.

(It seems like 6/20 goes from 150fg to 300fg these days.)

Extra res from ias/res jool really helps.

6.
Regarding the skill tree I invested 6 on passive magic skills, and rest to java. I'll max out everything at 98.

7.
If you want to try out before buying a magic javelin, get ik boots and gloves accompanied with the thunderstroke. Just get something with +4 skills. You'll still hit 55ias and 68fcr.



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Jan 2 2023 02:06am
phoenix sucks ass on zons, not due to the previous fire storm interactions, but due to how much you cripple the rest of your gear by using it over spirit. you lose 35 fcr that you have to make up for in other slots just to get a lazy mana solution

arach means you cripple your dps by a sizeable margin. razortail is your most important item outside of griffon.

6/40's means you'll be able to throw 80 javs before repairing. that limits your build efficiency and clear speed to a very specific play style and specific runs. all to get +2 sks over a 5 fg pair of titans. oh, and guess what spirit provides?



this is an awful build really, no offense. it's lacking in dmg, utility and clear speed. all to get a redemption aura that's not doing more for your mana pool than a standard silk/fcr ml ring/ias maek jewel build does
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Jan 2 2023 02:16am
Quote (Dolphy @ Jan 2 2023 03:06am)
phoenix sucks ass on zons, not due to the previous fire storm interactions, but due to how much you cripple the rest of your gear by using it over spirit. you lose 35 fcr that you have to make up for in other slots just to get a lazy mana solution

arach means you cripple your dps by a sizeable margin. razortail is your most important item outside of griffon.

6/40's means you'll be able to throw 80 javs before repairing. that limits your build efficiency and clear speed to a very specific play style and specific runs. all to get +2 sks over a 5 fg pair of titans. oh, and guess what spirit provides?



this is an awful build really, no offense. it's lacking in dmg, utility and clear speed. all to get a redemption aura that's not doing more for your mana pool than a standard silk/fcr ml ring/ias maek jewel build does


they updated the stack size from 80 to 120.

Dmg output is actually far better with 6/40, because you can add -5/5 facet on your griffon. If you don't use -5/5, then there really isn't much gain in terms of dmg as you mentioned.

ppl invest on ias maek jewels for reasons, and I'm suggesting this build as an alternative. If you are fine with taking mana potions, then I agree, spirit is OP.
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Jan 2 2023 08:15am
Quote (Puddingyo @ Jan 2 2023 09:16am)
they updated the stack size from 80 to 120.

Dmg output is actually far better with 6/40, because you can add -5/5 facet on your griffon. If you don't use -5/5, then there really isn't much gain in terms of dmg as you mentioned.

ppl invest on ias maek jewels for reasons, and I'm suggesting this build as an alternative. If you are fine with taking mana potions, then I agree, spirit is OP.


you don't use razortail so no, your damage is dogshit. and a standard build doesn't chug mana potions. a phoenix build (- ~100 boable mana) could even have more mana issues than a phoenix build that relies on stopping and clearing mobs in order to not run out of mana.

''invest'' in ias maek jewels? that's 50 fg compared to your 15k fg 6/40's and your double jah charsi shield.

basically you're paying thousands of fg on items ranging from utterly bad to obsolete while reaching a net result that's strictly worse than a cheap standard build.

if you're desperate for redemption aura despite how useless it is, use phoenix on swap and call it a day.
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Jan 3 2023 11:06pm
Quote (Dolphy @ Jan 2 2023 03:15pm)
you don't use razortail so no, your damage is dogshit. and a standard build doesn't chug mana potions. a phoenix build (- ~100 boable mana) could even have more mana issues than a phoenix build that relies on stopping and clearing mobs in order to not run out of mana.

''invest'' in ias maek jewels? that's 50 fg compared to your 15k fg 6/40's and your double jah charsi shield.

basically you're paying thousands of fg on items ranging from utterly bad to obsolete while reaching a net result that's strictly worse than a cheap standard build.

if you're desperate for redemption aura despite how useless it is, use phoenix on swap and call it a day.



This, phoenix on swap is pretty nice 👌🏻
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Jan 3 2023 11:30pm
Quote (Dolphy @ Jan 2 2023 09:15am)
you don't use razortail so no, your damage is dogshit. and a standard build doesn't chug mana potions. a phoenix build (- ~100 boable mana) could even have more mana issues than a phoenix build that relies on stopping and clearing mobs in order to not run out of mana.

''invest'' in ias maek jewels? that's 50 fg compared to your 15k fg 6/40's and your double jah charsi shield.

basically you're paying thousands of fg on items ranging from utterly bad to obsolete while reaching a net result that's strictly worse than a cheap standard build.

if you're desperate for redemption aura despite how useless it is, use phoenix on swap and call it a day.


well, I think I'm surrounded by people who think razortail is overvalued outside of cows.

have fun with your razortail! :hug:
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Jan 4 2023 06:04am
phx is garbage. if those 4 buttons with mana pots is to much for you you could still use phx on second slot.
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Jan 4 2023 06:19am
Quote (Puddingyo @ Jan 4 2023 06:30am)
well, I think I'm surrounded by people who think razortail is overvalued outside of cows.

have fun with your razortail! :hug:


big lol

Quote (Dolphy @ Jan 2 2023 03:15pm)
you don't use razortail so no, your damage is dogshit. and a standard build doesn't chug mana potions. a phoenix build (- ~100 boable mana) could even have more mana issues than a phoenix build that relies on stopping and clearing mobs in order to not run out of mana.

''invest'' in ias maek jewels? that's 50 fg compared to your 15k fg 6/40's and your double jah charsi shield.

basically you're paying thousands of fg on items ranging from utterly bad to obsolete while reaching a net result that's strictly worse than a cheap standard build.

if you're desperate for redemption aura despite how useless it is, use phoenix on swap and call it a day.


fixing weird typos. correction:
a phoenix build (- ~100 boable mana) could even have more mana issues than a spirit build that doesn't rely on stopping and clearing mobs in order to not run out of mana. *

This post was edited by Dolphy on Jan 4 2023 06:21am
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Jan 4 2023 11:28am
Horrible guide for many reasons already stated, if you think its hard to use mana pot, get a fcr/stat/mana/ml/fire ress ring, 2/20 gloves can also have Ml, and if you never wanna pot get silk.

If you say razor aint needed your playing Amazon wrong and not doing content that Amazon rule at, wich is the best high density killer in game

Phoenix suck cause it only give you redemption and max fire ress
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Jan 4 2023 11:38am
Oh my god.....

You guys are saying as if your piercing rate is 0% without razortail. :rofl:

Unless you cow, you rarely are in the situation where you can even pierce through 3 enemies at a time.

You guys all are aware that it's the javelin, not the lightning bolt that triggers another lightning fury, right? :bonk:

I'm happy with the 77% chance for piercing the first monster. 100% pierce ofc is fancy, but people ditch razortail for reasons.

But let's agree to disagree. I won't argue anymore.

Have a great 2023 with your razortails. :thumbsup:

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