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Dec 23 2022 08:01am
ok so throw mastery works with throw you don't have to double throw. duh! i know, but you never know for sure until you test it. the plan is to use a lacerator with a beast. right now, I'm using lacerator with a doom. i found that treachery is better than fort. i suspect that might change when i get a beast. i found that you can't throw with the throwing weapon in the offhand that was disappointing. the idea is simple throw when far ww when close.
it works fine with doom very safe build but slow. i think it will be worth it to get a beast and eth lacerator.
what do you think? anybody tried this before?
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Dec 23 2022 10:50am
I had a guide on such build before.
Its from d2lod, scrap the bug belt(i already listed dungo) and scrap the god bod for grief + beast.
Double check ur wirl ias break as that has been changed. Dont have time to read true it and think atm xD
If they fucked leap and changed to less syntenergies u may skill differently, I dont remember all d2r changes...

Quote (gel87 @ Aug 29 2020 05:17pm)
Oki, lets make 1 more standard build which dont really belong in the typical "funchar" section.

Gel87's Bvc:

Gear:
Weps:
God ba (cheap edition grief ba)
Bod ba (cheap edition beast ba)

Helm:
2barb/20fcr/30frw/visio/life or dex or base ar or @/2soc:
Cham + Ber
Alternative/stashed, but not neccesary:
Coa 110cr/50@/15%dr/adds
20fcr/BerBerCham
20fcr/dr helm

Belts:
Arach
Dungo / bug belt

Gloves:
Trang oul's

Boots:
Upped gores

Armor:
Eni AP 15ed(max level 97)

Ring 1:
10fcr/14+ dex/1xx ar/life/mana/@ res
(you May also keep dual stack fcr rings vs cold/lr

Ring 2:
Wisp 20
Raven 250/20
Dwarf
Angelic

Highlord
Angelic
2/20/life/@

Secondary:
3wc/lt charges/Falfal + 3wc/lr chargets/falfal
&
Ghost glaive 40ias/280+ed/fool's/preferable with kb and ctc amp.
Beast military pick(high enough str to cover carry eni(33 if perf t/a)

Inventory:
20/20 torch and annie
1 x lc 6max/48ar/8fhr
8 x 5fhr/3/20 (swap 4 of them with 322s when only need 27fhr break)
322's

Stash some 20/5@ for when needed.

Cube:
3wc str ammu
Demon limb
6bo(nice adds are extra shout/bc)
2 sojs

Statting:
Str: 0
Dex: some
Vita: res
Ene: 0

Skills:
1 throw masteries
1 all natrual(iron skin, stamina, frw, 2 to natural resists)
20 axe masteries
20 wirlwind
1 zerk
20 bo
16 leap
1 bc
1 wc
Rest shout.

The jav is only needed vs hammers, but can be used vs others for fun.
Beast military lets you pick up body due to low requirements, adds the str needed to wear gear and is a - 10 base who adds lvl 9 fana for ar/dmg/ias which lets 40ias ghost glaives get 2,77 attacks pr sec with 15gear ias(hl). The fools gives you the ar needed to hit paladins and throwing masteries adds the enhanced dmg twice on single throw.

Lvl 9 fana adds:
80% ar
186% ed
29 EIAS.

Life:

If eq was perf it would give this life:
40 ring
26*20 = 520
Barb:
Starting life: 52
4 life pr vita
2 life pr level.
40 * 4 = 160 uboable.
Quest = 60
Full bo level is 45 aka 167% add. +5% from eni = 172
= 40+520+52+(2*97)+60 = 866 * 2,72 = 2355

Stats avaible:
(97-1)*5+15 = 495
430 * 4 * 2,72 = 4678
4678 + 2355 = 7032
Which means we stat the remaining 65 into dex.
Total dex:
Start 20
Statting 65
Eq is : 20 + 15 + 40 = 75

Total dex:
160.

Ar:
From dex:
(160*5)+20-35 = 785
Gear/invent:
120 + (37*20) = 860
Fools:
16*97 = 1552.

Bonuses:
Axe masteries: 268
Throw masteries: 118
Enchant: 218
Wirlwind: 150
Zerk: 265
Visio: 97
Fana: 80

Throw ar:
(1552 + 860 + 785)*(1+((118+218+97+80)/100)) = 19597 ar.

Wirl ar:
(860+785)*(1+((268+218+97+80+150)/100) = 15018 ar.

Berzerk ar:
(860+785)*(1+((265+218+97+80+268)/100) = 16910 ar.

The zerk and wirl dmg is like any other bvc dmg.

Strenght:
30 + 40 + 40 + (0,75*97) = 182
Stat bonus javs:
(182+160)*0,75 = 256
The throw dmg is average:
Base: ((0,5*97)+(3*37))/2 + (57,5*1,5*4) = 79+345 = 424
Total:
424 * (1+((256+186+83+83)/100)) = 3001.

If we include our 50% deadly strike and 18% crit chance we can multiply with something like 1,55.

3001 * 1,55 = 4652 average :)

Breakpoints:
63fcr
Max ias on all attacks
Good frw
48fhr
7k life
Good ar
16% dr(precast fade with treachury if bm duels)
The BerBercham helm + dungo = 38% dr
The BerBercham helm + bb = 43% dr.
U can also have a 10ds/visio/berber helm if want, or a 2/20/30/visio/add/berber helm as well if needed vs smiters etc.

The ar/dmg calc was with:
Arach
Wisp
Trangs
Hl
Upped gores
Ghost glaive 40/300/fool's + beast military pick
// god + bod ba
2/20/30/visio/20dex/chamBer helm.
Preboed.
37 x 3max/20ar/life-fhr etc.


This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 23 2022 10:51am
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Dec 23 2022 01:04pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 23 2022 08:50am)
I had a guide on such build before.
Its from d2lod, scrap the bug belt(i already listed dungo) and scrap the god bod for grief + beast.
Double check ur wirl ias break as that has been changed. Dont have time to read true it and think atm xD
If they fucked leap and changed to less syntenergies u may skill differently, I dont remember all d2r changes...


so you went bvc/1 arm throw. thanks, that's awesome. yeah, i play console so no short leaps and they did nerf it too. ill probably max throw mastery. i notice most of the barb players i would ask for advice want to put skills into shout before iron skin. is that to increase the duration?
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Dec 23 2022 04:20pm
Well it used to be a nobrainer on shout because it used to give syntenergies to berzerk. But I think they removed that in d2r. But shout also helps your team mates.

Next time I have some time on a pc i can make it in planner and also verify its wirl breakpoints are good.

This is also a 63fcr build and I dno how gameplay on console is and if fcr is as important there...
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Dec 23 2022 04:37pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 23 2022 02:20pm)
Well it used to be a nobrainer on shout because it used to give syntenergies to berzerk. But I think they removed that in d2r. But shout also helps your team mates.

Next time I have some time on a pc i can make it in planner and also verify its wirl breakpoints are good.

This is also a 63fcr build and I dno how gameplay on console is and if fcr is as important there...


oh forgot that shout was the synergy for berserk. yeah it' bo now. that is a lot better. BA needs 65ias with all gear now for a 4 frame hit check. fan is applied to the base weapon speed though. so i think any grief ba with a beast will get max ww speed now.
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Dec 24 2022 05:02am
I would do smt like this...
Coa/Dungo/Raven/Dwarf/Hots/Bo eq is in stash.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/m3010695
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Dec 24 2022 06:06am
I read ur first post again, are u pvm?
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Quote (gel87 @ Dec 24 2022 04:06am)
I read ur first post again, are u pvm?


that's all i can do with it now. good for pub duels is the goal.

This post was edited by L8knightResurrected on Dec 24 2022 07:36am
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