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Has any1 got crushed or went Grush route skipped norm nm and tried to start just hell at the lowest lvl you can?

Ik I’m not lvl 1 but lvl 5 sin thinking about trying to just do hell at a low lvl and record it would that be interesting has anyone done it?

Or tried
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Dec 4 2022 08:43pm
Hit chance and mana will be the factors.
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Dec 5 2022 12:00am
A hell zombie on /players 1 has 3238 life.

Good luck lol
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Dec 6 2022 05:31pm
Quote (Djsem @ Dec 4 2022 09:43pm)
Hit chance and mana will be the factors.



Thanks for this

Quote (Vilify @ Dec 5 2022 01:00am)
A hell zombie on /players 1 has 3238 life.

Good luck lol



Hey I never said it was easy I just asked if anyone has tried 😂😂
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Quote (Vilify @ 5 Dec 2022 07:00)
A hell zombie on /players 1 has 3238 life.

Good luck lol


And 50% pdr.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act1-zombie.shtml

But usually it is too difficult to do. There's regularly not just one solo monster in hell, usually groups and they're much more deadly.

Even with mid-range gear and level 70 character it is hard to survive in blood moor.

On top of that, there's the 5% experience barrier that comes when being +-10 levels of the monster you kill. After level 70, there's also an experience penalty that increases with each level.


But, let's do a small attempt.

Zombie experience: 28 069 x 0.05 = 1403 exp per zombie, or average monster.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/levels.shtml

You need 285 041 630 exp to get to level 70.

285 041 630 / 1403 = 203 165 zombies you need to kill, without taking into account you get gradually up to 100% exp from level 61. So give or take 20 000 less.

At those early levels, you typically do damage in the 100-200 range. You have to do ranged damage, because zombie slaps deal around 70 average damage each swing. And they have 5% chance to do critical damage like all monsters do. So they can hit for up to 230 damage.

They have an average of 4600 hit points.

Even killing 1 zombie with level 1-10 skills seems like it would take an obscene amount of time. Maybe 1-2 minutes. It would though net a decent amount of experience. You would need to kill around 50 zombies to get to level 10.



It seems pretty far fetched. Maybe there are ways to do it easier and less risky.
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Dec 6 2022 06:08pm
Quote (Taurean @ Dec 6 2022 07:01pm)
And 50% pdr.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act1-zombie.shtml

But usually it is too difficult to do. There's regularly not just one solo monster in hell, usually groups and they're much more deadly.

Even with mid-range gear and level 70 character it is hard to survive in blood moor.

On top of that, there's the 5% experience barrier that comes when being +-10 levels of the monster you kill. After level 70, there's also an experience penalty that increases with each level.


But, let's do a small attempt.

Zombie experience: 28 069 x 0.05 = 1403 exp per zombie, or average monster.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/levels.shtml

You need 285 041 630 exp to get to level 70.

tel:285 041 630285 041 630[/URL] / 1403 = 203 165 zombies you need to kill, without taking into account you get gradually up to 100% exp from level 61. So give or take 20 000 less.

At those early levels, you typically do damage in the 100-200 range. You have to do ranged damage, because zombie slaps deal around 70 average damage each swing. And they have 5% chance to do critical damage like all monsters do. So they can hit for up to 230 damage.

They have an average of 4600 hit points.

Even killing 1 zombie with level 1-10 skills seems like it would take an obscene amount of time. Maybe 1-2 minutes. It would though net a decent amount of experience. You would need to kill around 50 zombies to get to level 10.



It seems pretty far fetched. Maybe there are ways to do it easier and less risky.



You’re a real one thank you for this input I’m just trying to add some fun to it

Maybe lvl 15 with signs

Also char is rushed with all stat skill quests and Anya done so I have a buffer of skills and stats
Is is cheating idk it’s starting in hell but thanks again that puts a lot of things into perspective
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Quote (Brandl94 @ 7 Dec 2022 01:08)
You’re a real one thank you for this input I’m just trying to add some fun to it

Maybe lvl 15 with signs

Also char is rushed with all stat skill quests and Anya done so I have a buffer of skills and stats
Is is cheating idk it’s starting in hell but thanks again that puts a lot of things into perspective


Yeah i think it's interesting too. I hate standardized methods and like to try to think new. You should just try and see how it works.
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Dec 6 2022 07:14pm
Quote (Taurean @ Dec 6 2022 07:43pm)
Yeah i think it's interesting too. I hate standardized methods and like to try to think new. You should just try and see how it works.



Yeah I might wing it see how it goes I guess I’ll do some research on low lvl assassins and see what I can come
Up with if mrlamma can passive tree a zon I feel like I can figure out a way to over starting in hell
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