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Oct 21 2022 02:46pm
i don't understand why everyone uses an enigma on a sorc. it seems to me like enigma would never be best in slot for a sorc. is it the life you get from the Jah and points you won't have to put to str?
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Oct 21 2022 02:56pm
Because it is simply the best armor in the game.


  • 2 skill
  • The strength bonus is insane. Makes it way easier to equip spirit so you save a ton of stat points.
  • Saves two skill points by not having to put a point into tele
  • 45FRW is needed in pvp and nice for running through town in pvm
  • Increased life
  • Damage reduce
  • 14 life per kill and DTM is good in pvm
  • high magic find for pvm


What's not to love? Even without tele it would still be the best armor in the game.
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Oct 21 2022 03:10pm
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 21 2022 03:46pm)
i don't understand why everyone uses an enigma on a sorc. it seems to me like enigma would never be best in slot for a sorc. is it the life you get from the Jah and points you won't have to put to str?



Because every single one of the stats is more useful then all the stats on other Armor. For both pvm and pvp

Except for 200 FCR FB which needs vmagi


And 105 ES nova, vmagi is slightly better than the 105 ES nova enigma build.
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Oct 21 2022 03:50pm
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Because every single one of the stats is more useful then all the stats on other Armor. For both pvm and pvp

Except for 200 FCR FB which needs vmagi


And 105 ES nova, vmagi is slightly better than the 105 ES nova enigma build.


What about a +15% lightning skills and +3 nova faceted ormus robe for 105 es nova? You can still reach 105 fcr with self wielding infinity and two sojs. griffons + arachnid + magefist + 2/20 sorc amulet+ormus = 105 fcr. Or does that sacrifice too much survivability?

This post was edited by pat777b on Oct 21 2022 03:52pm
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What about a +15% lightning skills and +3 nova faceted ormus robe for 105 es nova? You can still reach 105 fcr with self wielding infinity and two sojs. griffons + arachnid + magefist + 2/20 sorc amulet+ormus = 105 fcr. Or does that sacrifice too much survivability?



+ damage % for lightning and fire do very little. As it is just additive to your lightning or fire mastery %, which is typically around 450-500%.

Adding 15% to 450% is only a ~3.5% increase. Meaning it’s only a 3.5% damage increase. Hardly worth caring about

Ormus is ok for cold skills, but enigma is going to be genenralt better
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Oct 21 2022 04:33pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 21 2022 05:10pm)
+ damage % for lightning and fire do very little. As it is just additive to your lightning or fire mastery %, which is typically around 450-500%.

Adding 15% to 450% is only a ~3.5% increase. Meaning it’s only a 3.5% damage increase. Hardly worth caring about

Ormus is ok for cold skills, but enigma is going to be genenralt better


I get that the +15% is terrible for lightning but you can get the +3 to nova. The facet also lets you get a small extra -5% light res. An enigma sorc would need two fcr rings to reach 105 fcr with self wielding infinity. So a self wielding infinity ormus set up would have 3 more levels into nova than the enigma set up. SOJs also nicely boost the mana for ES.

It still might be worse than Enigma but I believe Ormus has more benefits than just the +15% lightning.

You said vmagi is better than enigma for 105 fcr nova sorc. Perfect ormus set up has 2 extra +nova over perfect vmagi setup.

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Oct 21 2022 04:39pm
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i don't understand why everyone uses an enigma on a sorc. it seems to me like enigma would never be best in slot for a sorc. is it the life you get from the Jah and points you won't have to put to str?


Use coh, top armor in game, don't listen noobs that Say Better enigma.,...
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Oct 21 2022 07:06pm
ok so basically Enigma is usually the 2nd or 3rd best option for a sorc if not the best. so it's good to use when you have no idea what direction you are going with your sorc.
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Oct 23 2022 01:52pm
Enigma if u want to use spirit
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Oct 23 2022 04:07pm
Quote (BarlaK @ Oct 21 2022 04:39pm)
Use coh, top armor in game, don't listen noobs that Say Better enigma.,...


This entirely depends on your resist budget. It's not cut and dry.

Ultimately, the better geared sorc (assuming you are using spirit) should be using engima, more life, and it's harder to be thrown into FHR, which is your biggest weakness teleporting as a sorc. While I agree that I would be going for CoH first, Enigma is most likely going to be the preferable option if you've capped resists with GG resist skillers and SC's.

This post was edited by DessiatoJSP on Oct 23 2022 04:07pm
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