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Oct 17 2022 07:38pm
I did a lot of research and it was hard to find a build and gear for barb horker!

Could you tell me what would be close to perfect?

What I found was ->

Weapon -> BOTD + Beast
Armor -> Wealth (Can I use Enigma instead? Fortitude? Skullders?)
Switch to Ali baba at item find time?

Helm -> Crown of Thieves inserted with Lem Rune or the Immortal King's Will with two Lem runes.

Gloves -> Chance Guards

Boots -> Infernostride

Ammy -> 70% gold crafted?

Rings -> 2x Dwarf

Charms -> Anni + torch + gheeds +gold and resist

Belt -> Goldwrap

Mercenary ->

Botd (what I found on the fandom wiki)
eth fort + eth andy


My main doubt is about the Skills!

I must put

WW 20
20 Mastery
20 BO
8-10 Find item

??

If anyone can clarify, I'd be grateful, I've never played barb horker before!
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Oct 18 2022 09:29am
Where are you horking? Trav vs anywhere else has very different setups. gf or mf?

For trav you can use a tele ammy or circlet. if horking anywhere else, you'd want enigma.

2x Grief for WW or 1xgrief + something for zerk.

With 2.4 changes you'd want max find potion for the 1% synergy per hard point. Want to get to around 73-75% find item.
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Quote (daanno2 @ Oct 18 2022 12:29pm)
Where are you horking? Trav vs anywhere else has very different setups. gf or mf?

For trav you can use a tele ammy or circlet. if horking anywhere else, you'd want enigma.

2x Grief for WW or 1xgrief + something for zerk.

With 2.4 changes you'd want max find potion for the 1% synergy per hard point. Want to get to around 73-75% find item.



Thanks for replying, I wanted to do travincal in hell, I did it with Grief + SS using WW and I was dying in Hell, so I wanted something that was a quick kill, so should I put zerk? And the skills, how would it be? My biggest doubt is on them, would it be 20 from the main (ww or zerk), 20 from mastery, 20 from bo? and 10 of find item? Thanks
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Oct 18 2022 10:28am
Quote (lightwarrior333 @ Oct 18 2022 12:11pm)
Thanks for replying, I wanted to do travincal in hell, I did it with Grief + SS using WW and I was dying in Hell, so I wanted something that was a quick kill, so should I put zerk? And the skills, how would it be? My biggest doubt is on them, would it be 20 from the main (ww or zerk), 20 from mastery, 20 from bo? and 10 of find item? Thanks


If ww make sure you have enough leech. There's not an obvious slot for it, either on the ammy (hard) or sacrifice 1 dstar. Might need to warcry + battle cry on the pack.

Not a fan off SS, it halves your dps.

Having a merc which can survive consistently also massively splits aggro and increases survivability. Something like Andy's + CoH + eth ariocs or eth botd wp is gg. Can also use cot + guardian angel for a lot less dps but 90% fr.

If you have trouble surviving using ww, zerk will be much harder.

For skills, ww looks like this :
20 ww
20 mastery
20 find item
20 find potion
1 zerk for PI
Rest into BO.

For zerk its slightly more flexible as it has more synergies, so depends on if you are you're prioritizing dps or find item.
20 zerk
20 find potion
10-20 find item, depends on your +skills and what breakpoint trying to hit
10-20 mastery
10-20 bo

BO increases your life +dmg whereas mastery increases your dps a bit less per level but increases AR. Technically if you're being diligent casting warcry which reduces enemy defence (not to mention grief ITD SHOULD work vs normal council members), hit chance should not be an issue. Your merc has lowish AR so you'd want to cast warcry anyway for him.

I have a video doing 17 min 10M gold in my profile notes if you want to see how zerk plays. The gear is pretty gg so it probably plays a little differently with other setups lol.
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Oct 18 2022 10:50am
Quote (daanno2 @ Oct 18 2022 01:28pm)
If ww make sure you have enough leech. There's not an obvious slot for it, either on the ammy (hard) or sacrifice 1 dstar. Might need to warcry + battle cry on the pack.

Not a fan off SS, it halves your dps.

Having a merc which can survive consistently also massively splits aggro and increases survivability. Something like Andy's + CoH + eth ariocs or eth botd wp is gg. Can also use cot + guardian angel for a lot less dps but 90% fr.

If you have trouble surviving using ww, zerk will be much harder.

For skills, ww looks like this :
20 ww
20 mastery
20 find item
20 find potion
1 zerk for PI
Rest into BO.

For zerk its slightly more flexible as it has more synergies, so depends on if you are you're prioritizing dps or find item.
20 zerk
20 find potion
10-20 find item, depends on your +skills and what breakpoint trying to hit
10-20 mastery
10-20 bo

BO increases your life +dmg whereas mastery increases your dps a bit less per level but increases AR. Technically if you're being diligent casting warcry which reduces enemy defence (not to mention grief ITD SHOULD work vs normal council members), hit chance should not be an issue. Your merc has lowish AR so you'd want to cast warcry anyway for him.

I have a video doing 17 min 10M gold in my profile notes if you want to see how zerk plays. The gear is pretty gg so it probably plays a little differently with other setups lol.



I could share the items from my java zon until I buy the ones from barb (mercenary eth andy + infinity + fort - fort is not eth, I could use it on barb too, but I think it would give cold damage right?) I saw a video from MrLammaSC playing zerk, and he was using basically what I was using, but zerk instead of WW with grief + shield, he even leaped on travincal, and it seemed to be very easy, but now that I saw that it was in March, so maybe it was before this patch like you mentioned!

I could share -> Enigma, shako, infinity, andys, fort.... Could I buy 2x Grief if necessary, which build would you advise me, easy to play, to find gold + MF doing only travincal without dying too much?

The items I'm using 2x dwarf (ring), infernostride, ik helm (should I change to shako), nokozan amulet for fire resist, glove chance guards, I have gheeds too etc, and which gc barb should I focus on, in warcries or combat? Thanks... And switching to two ali baba lem'd, could you use my +3warcries glaives, what do you think is better? Thanks, gonna see your video soon!

This post was edited by lightwarrior333 on Oct 18 2022 10:50am
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I could share the items from my java zon until I buy the ones from barb (mercenary eth andy + infinity + fort - fort is not eth, I could use it on barb too, but I think it would give cold damage right?) I saw a video from MrLammaSC playing zerk, and he was using basically what I was using, but zerk instead of WW with grief + shield, he even leaped on travincal, and it seemed to be very easy, but now that I saw that it was in March, so maybe it was before this patch like you mentioned!

I could share -> Enigma, shako, infinity, andys, fort.... Could I buy 2x Grief if necessary, which build would you advise me, easy to play, to find gold + MF doing only travincal without dying too much?

The items I'm using 2x dwarf (ring), infernostride, ik helm (should I change to shako), nokozan amulet for fire resist, glove chance guards, I have gheeds too etc, and which gc barb should I focus on, in warcries or combat? Thanks... And switching to two ali baba lem'd, could you use my +3warcries glaives, what do you think is better? Thanks, gonna see your video soon!


WW is easier to play but harder to gear. You NEED a source of ll+ml. Most common is to use fcr + dual leech ring, with some mf and gf if possible. Can also use reapers merc to double dps, but he will shatter 1-2 corpses per run, which is huge.

Forti works fine for merc but probably not ideal. When ice armor procs it just feels bad shattering like 4 corpses. CoH does slightly less dmg but increases survivability massively with the leech and +res. It adds 100% less Ed compared to forti but the +2 skills increases aura lvl and his jav skill as well.

One thing I'm adamant about is that you should not use a shield for horking. There's something wrong if survival is that huge an issue, and crippling your ww dps is not optimizing the build. I've played the ww build extensively and at no point with 2x grief + leech was survival an issue.
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Oct 18 2022 12:07pm
Quote (daanno2 @ Oct 18 2022 02:13pm)
WW is easier to play but harder to gear. You NEED a source of ll+ml. Most common is to use fcr + dual leech ring, with some mf and gf if possible. Can also use reapers merc to double dps, but he will shatter 1-2 corpses per run, which is huge.

Forti works fine for merc but probably not ideal. When ice armor procs it just feels bad shattering like 4 corpses. CoH does slightly less dmg but increases survivability massively with the leech and +res. It adds 100% less Ed compared to forti but the +2 skills increases aura lvl and his jav skill as well.

One thing I'm adamant about is that you should not use a shield for horking. There's something wrong if survival is that huge an issue, and crippling your ww dps is not optimizing the build. I've played the ww build extensively and at no point with 2x grief + leech was survival an issue.


So in short I definitely need 2x Grief + leech items to make barb horker's life quick and easy, following the above skills you passed! Correct? Thanks for your help and your time
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