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Oct 2 2022 04:54pm
On budget setup wich route would you use and why

#1 runic talon chaos / feral Fury /griffon 15 ias jool (fade)
#2 feral chaos/ feral Fury ( Bos ) griffon any sock
#3 runic chaos/ feral Plague /griffon 15 ias (fade)
#4 feral chaos / feral Plague (Bos) griffon any sock
#5 runic chaos / Plague suwayah griffon 15 ias jool

Main problem on setup with fade is i wont be able to use cham on helm and keep a hight dr setup against druid.
Would you go no cbf vs druid ? Kinda risky but playing 8dr with Bos IS even worse.
Also does a fool IS really needed to hit non shout/hight def chars ?
I played mostly pure Trap and some Ghost on lod and never had the use of a fool against low def caster (nec druid zon sorc)


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Oct 2 2022 07:46pm
feral fury + runic chaos cham'd griffs
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Oct 2 2022 10:16pm
Griffs always cham
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Oct 2 2022 11:07pm
Quote (Alpha @ Oct 3 2022 03:46am)
feral fury + runic chaos cham'd griffs


Dont you need 42 ias with runic main hand since there auto wsm bug on d2r.
Also how do you stack against arach slow ?
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Oct 3 2022 03:49pm
Quote (Sidgy @ Oct 3 2022 12:07am)
Dont you need 42 ias with runic main hand since there auto wsm bug on d2r.
Also how do you stack against arach slow ?



Yes you still need 42ias in main hand. There is no auto wsm or manual wsm bugging

In 102, you won’t really ever get max trap speed unless you either 15ias jewel your griffs, or you have a erep claw with 15ias jewel in it (in a runic)

102 has been seriously nerfed for WW sin in general unless using BoS vs nec
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Oct 3 2022 03:59pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 3 2022 11:49pm)
Yes you still need 42ias in main hand. There is no auto wsm or manual wsm bugging

In 102, you won’t really ever get max trap speed unless you either 15ias jewel your griffs, or you have a erep claw with 15ias jewel in it (in a runic)

102 has been seriously nerfed for WW sin in general unless using BoS vs nec


Y that what i think about.
Will test few setups when reset coming but sacrifing 1 laying Trap bp speed might bé shit.
Or i will go like i used to do on lod dclaw/kick for ow basically on pure traper we will see.
Seems like sin on d2r IS completely différent anyway
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Oct 3 2022 04:04pm
Quote (Sidgy @ Oct 3 2022 04:59pm)
Y that what i think about.
Will test few setups when reset coming but sacrifing 1 laying Trap bp speed might bé shit.
Or i will go like i used to do on lod dclaw/kick for ow basically on pure traper we will see.
Seems like sin on d2r IS completely différent anyway



Sin has been nerfed into the ground
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Oct 3 2022 04:04pm
Quote (Sidgy @ Oct 3 2022 01:07am)
Dont you need 42 ias with runic main hand since there auto wsm bug on d2r.
Also how do you stack against arach slow ?


Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 3 2022 05:49pm)
Yes you still need 42ias in main hand. There is no auto wsm or manual wsm bugging

In 102, you won’t really ever get max trap speed unless you either 15ias jewel your griffs, or you have a erep claw with 15ias jewel in it (in a runic)

102 has been seriously nerfed for WW sin in general unless using BoS vs nec


ya what Ukon said^

i say feral fury since you still hit 10fpa trap and cham griffs

but runic gives you flexibility to hit 9fpa with ias jewel griffs
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Oct 3 2022 04:06pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 4 2022 12:04am)
Sin has been nerfed into the ground


Yep with the fhr changes a lot
Else i would just go pure traper route with 174 fcr setups 70% of the time like i was used to play
Will test myself anyway thx for answer
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Oct 3 2022 04:11pm
Quote (Sidgy @ Oct 3 2022 05:06pm)
Yep with the fhr changes a lot
Else i would just go pure traper route with 174 fcr setups 70% of the time like i was used to play
Will test myself anyway thx for answer



It’s more than just fhr

WW ias has been nerfed, making you need more is for WW, thus making claw types such as war fist useless under 99.999% of circumstances

Dual Claw speed has been nerfed through no wsm bug or auto wsm bug and no more awsm calculation for claw speed

I never would hve imagined a scenario where blizzard gave sins 20 more skill points (no more death sentry synergy), but sin was so nerfed it’s not even usable
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