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Aug 19 2022 08:13am
Is 47 fhr any different that 27?

Do I have to hit the 48 fhr bp? How does fhr bps work, I know with fcr some seems to be faster without hitting the bps.
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Aug 19 2022 08:36am
lmao

27 and 47fhr are the same bp

only certain fcr numbers inbetween breakpoints just change the action frame to being 1 frame sooner but still the same total frames
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Aug 19 2022 08:39am
Nothing changes til you hit a BP. So if 27 is a BP and 48 is the next, anywhere from 27-47 will be the same amount of frames. So no point going in between BPs.

For instance 48-86 FHR bp, a random shael at 48 to bump to 68 will do nothing.


BPs are what make gearing in d2 interesting IMO.
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Aug 19 2022 08:42am
Quote (jaaykaay @ Aug 19 2022 09:39am)
Nothing changes til you hit a BP. So if 27 is a BP and 48 is the next, anywhere from 27-47 will be the same amount of frames. So no point going in between BPs.

For instance 48-86 FHR bp, a random shael at 48 to bump to 68 will do nothing.


BPs are what make gearing in d2 interesting IMO.


thats only true for fhr/block frames since those trigger at frame 1 and last over a length of time

fcr with 75 vs 86 for paladin, even tho 86 isnt a fcr bp and the next is 125, makes the frame you teleport or cast a hammer or holy bolt etc 1 frame sooner, but just 1 more end lag frame since the number of frames stays the same
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Aug 19 2022 08:48am
Quote (Haseo @ Aug 19 2022 08:42am)
thats only true for fhr/block frames since those trigger at frame 1 and last over a length of time

fcr with 75 vs 86 for paladin, even tho 86 isnt a fcr bp and the next is 125, makes the frame you teleport or cast a hammer or holy bolt etc 1 frame sooner, but just 1 more end lag frame since the number of frames stays the same



Granted it’s early, and I’m on my first cup of coffee, but what is the practical difference then?
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Aug 19 2022 08:54am
Quote (jaaykaay @ Aug 19 2022 09:48am)
Granted it’s early, and I’m on my first cup of coffee, but what is the practical difference then?


You can see where u land teleport 1 frame sooner so more time to relock or something

Its only a small difference but thats how tmc/speed mod worked back in the day. U needed 90fcr(86 actually but practically 90) on hdin and the hax would just cut the end lag off

This post was edited by Haseo on Aug 19 2022 08:54am
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Quote (Haseo @ Aug 19 2022 07:42am)
thats only true for fhr/block frames since those trigger at frame 1 and last over a length of time

fcr with 75 vs 86 for paladin, even tho 86 isnt a fcr bp and the next is 125, makes the frame you teleport or cast a hammer or holy bolt etc 1 frame sooner, but just 1 more end lag frame since the number of frames stays the same


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