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Aug 17 2022 10:37am
Hey guys, I’m looking to build a sin with focus on LS and WW, but never done it before. Which bases should I use for each runeword? And which hand should I wear each claw to hit max ias?

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Aug 17 2022 11:04am
1x runic 1x feral

Chaos runic over gloves
Plague feral over boots

You need a total of 42 ias on main hand claw (claw over gloves) to hit max trap lay speed.

Chaos already has 35 ias, meaning you need another 7 somewhere. Typically this is gotten from highlords in your 65 setup or a 15ias jewel in your griffons for 102


But fury > plague.
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Aug 17 2022 05:27pm
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1x runic 1x feral

Chaos runic over gloves
Plague feral over boots

You need a total of 42 ias on main hand claw (claw over gloves) to hit max trap lay speed.

Chaos already has 35 ias, meaning you need another 7 somewhere. Typically this is gotten from highlords in your 65 setup or a 15ias jewel in your griffons for 102


But fury > plague.


Agreed

I currently run a trap focused WW sin with a plague/chaos, but I use 7X skill charms and the rest are melee scs.

I'm thinking about switching to 100psn/20 life small charms and avoiding venom just for pubs giggles.
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Aug 17 2022 06:19pm
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Agreed

I currently run a trap focused WW sin with a plague/chaos, but I use 7X skill charms and the rest are melee scs.

I'm thinking about switching to 100psn/20 life small charms and avoiding venom just for pubs giggles.



Well that build is just dumb.

You will get vastly more from shadow disc GCs than 3/20/20


Your ur idea how poison SCs is dumb
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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Aug 17 2022 08:19pm)
Well that build is just dumb.

You will get vastly more from shadow disc GCs than 3/20/20


Your ur idea how poison SCs is dumb


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Aug 18 2022 02:46pm
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Not worth to sacrifice shadow GCs for 3/20/20s. Especially if you’re trying to be “trap based” then you would get way, way more value with GCs.

Dumb to stack poison on sin because venom reduces duration to .4s or whatever so it doesn’t add anything useful

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While 3/20/20 will generally provide slightly more damage, life, and ar than 1 shadow disc GCs, a shadow disc GC gives the following:
1 mind blast
1 claw mastery < which will give slightly less AR / damage then a 3/20/20
1 venom
1 claw block
1 fade
1 shadow master

I’d much rather have +1 to those 5 skills (excluding claw mastery), than slightly more Ar damage and life.


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Aug 18 2022 04:05pm
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I've got two leftover shadow gcs with 31 and 34life each. Lmk whether you need.
Quote (zuz8 @ Aug 18 2022 01:27am)
Agreed

I currently run a trap focused WW sin with a plague/chaos, but I use 7X skill charms and the rest are melee scs.

I'm thinking about switching to 100psn/20 life small charms and avoiding venom just for pubs giggles.

Also, you can fit 8 GCs with some tetris while still keeping prebuff cube.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 18 2022 04:08pm
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Aug 18 2022 11:11pm
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I've got two leftover shadow gcs with 31 and 34life each. Lmk whether you need.

Also, you can fit 8 GCs with some tetris while still keeping prebuff cube.


Yeah I'm more of a zon main. Never really dove into a sin so this has been alot of fun in trial an errors. My sin is pretty much built from left overs so I may have to overhaul her because she is alot of fun.

Question: what if I wanted to just be trap dominate would 7 trap gcs with 2x shadow with 10x melee sc. The gear I pretty much have I just gotta get the inventory right for publics
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Aug 18 2022 11:14pm
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While 3/20/20 will generally provide slightly more damage, life, and ar than 1 shadow disc GCs, a shadow disc GC gives the following:
1 mind blast
1 claw mastery < which will give slightly less AR / damage then a 3/20/20
1 venom
1 claw block
1 fade
1 shadow master

I’d much rather have +1 to those 5 skills (excluding claw mastery), than slightly more Ar damage and life.


Thank you for explaining rather then belittle. I have pretty vast pvp knowledge from decades of playing but man I been away for far to long lmao and D2R mechanics are so bad it's like what I've learned from LoD only 30% applies to d2r... they fucked up with removing wep switch mod/glitch
And the tweaking to WW... but that's why I'm focused on the sin now. I have a strong urge to make nerfed characters viable.
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