At least on non ladder you can use the search feature and search for "frw", "3frw", "5frw" etc. and you can always find really good deals on frw charms. If you see someone selling a 3max/17ar/3frw and that's the only item for sale in the thread it'll be expensive because they know what they have. What you want to do is find those people listing dozens of items in one thread or a mule cleanout type of thread. I've funded my entire inventory by doing this and I have gotten some ridiculously cheap charms. Large charms really seem to go for cheap in those threads. I got a 6max/42ar/5frw large charm the other day for significantly less than one single 3/20/3 goes for and all it cost me was 2 frw.