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Jul 5 2022 02:33pm
Hey there,

Have a few questions for a PvM Berserk Barb I want to try out:

1. Is it safe to use Shield with tons of faster block rate (FBR) ? If so, Guardian Angel for ICB FBR and max resist, is this a decent option for survivability or would you rather go typical enigma/fort ?
2. Does deadly strike apply on phys dmg, then work with Berserk or is it just useless ?
3. Does +Dmg from Grief apply on berserk as hidden dmg as well ?
4. What Warcry would you use to cc mobs mostly ? Shout? Taunt? Battle cry? War cry?
5. If you can't sustain with life steal and such, would you suggest using Life after each kill items such as Nigma-Grief etc. ? Or would you rather use pots with massive hp to compensate the risks of using Berserk all the time ?

Thanks in advance! :santa:
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Jul 5 2022 09:27pm
You can stack physical dmg of any sort, deadly strikes, dmg to demon, dmg from grief, max dmg from charm... Etc... Berserk then convert all your physical dmg to magic dmg

Life Steal is useless with berserk

You can use Ss or a 6ist or lem pb as offhand too, use grief as main (Alibaba upg as offhand is good too if you use loh and highlord you hit the ias BP)
I run 1 row of full reju in case, 1 row of tp, 1 row id scroll, 1 row super mana pot (for mana Burn) and it works well
Fuck Gardian Angel use wealth or eni
Loh gloves and highlord adds tons of dmg
I dont use any cc with this build

Lmk if you got more question

This post was edited by BoRuSS_QC on Jul 5 2022 09:33pm
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Quote (KosMosII @ Jul 5 2022 10:33pm)
Hey there,

Have a few questions for a PvM Berserk Barb I want to try out:

1. Is it safe to use Shield with tons of faster block rate (FBR) ? If so, Guardian Angel for ICB FBR and max resist, is this a decent option for survivability or would you rather go typical enigma/fort ?
2. Does deadly strike apply on phys dmg, then work with Berserk or is it just useless ?
3. Does +Dmg from Grief apply on berserk as hidden dmg as well ?
4. What Warcry would you use to cc mobs mostly ? Shout? Taunt? Battle cry? War cry?
5. If you can't sustain with life steal and such, would you suggest using Life after each kill items such as Nigma-Grief etc. ? Or would you rather use pots with massive hp to compensate the risks of using Berserk all the time ?

Thanks in advance! :santa:


always eni, unless you enjoy more than doubling your run time. shield is obsolete, use howl to scare away the mobs and you'll never get hit.
ds works iirc, so i'd use hl
yes it does. grief > all other main hand options
howl
yeah laek should be enough, along with some potting. ll doesn't proc since you don't deal physical damage
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Jul 6 2022 04:35am
Quote (BoRuSS_QC @ Jul 5 2022 11:27pm)
You can stack physical dmg of any sort, deadly strikes, dmg to demon, dmg from grief, max dmg from charm... Etc... Berserk then convert all your physical dmg to magic dmg

Life Steal is useless with berserk

You can use Ss or a 6ist or lem pb as offhand too, use grief as main (Alibaba upg as offhand is good too if you use loh and highlord you hit the ias BP)
I run 1 row of full reju in case, 1 row of tp, 1 row id scroll, 1 row super mana pot (for mana Burn) and it works well
Fuck Gardian Angel use wealth or eni
Loh gloves and highlord adds tons of dmg
I dont use any cc with this build

Lmk if you got more question


I'm specifically looking for a full sustain build



Quote (Dolphy @ Jul 6 2022 04:03am)
always eni, unless you enjoy more than doubling your run time. shield is obsolete, use howl to scare away the mobs and you'll never get hit.
ds works iirc, so i'd use hl
yes it does. grief > all other main hand options
howl
yeah laek should be enough, along with some potting. ll doesn't proc since you don't deal physical damage


If using grief, why not use a shield then, since 2H grief isn't worth the slot ? Should I just go for a 2H E death cb ?

Oh yeah, using howl? Why not stun war cry ?

And what kind of mobs hurt berserkers the most ? Souls, death knights?
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Quote (KosMosII @ Jul 6 2022 12:35pm)
I'm specifically looking for a full sustain build





If using grief, why not use a shield then, since 2H grief isn't worth the slot ? Should I just go for a 2H E death cb ?

Oh yeah, using howl? Why not stun war cry ?

And what kind of mobs hurt berserkers the most ? Souls, death knights?


people tend to go 6x ist offhand. if you're not looking for mf or gf, shield works.
howl is a synergy to zerk, so it's maxed and more effective
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Quote (Dolphy @ Jul 6 2022 07:17am)
people tend to go 6x ist offhand. if you're not looking for mf or gf, shield works.
howl is a synergy to zerk, so it's maxed and more effective


What shield, SS or phoenix for redemp ?
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What shield, SS or phoenix for redemp ?


ss in that case. redemption would pop all corpses, which means you can't hork. horking is what makes zerks a high-end pvm char
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Jul 6 2022 11:06am
Quote (Dolphy @ Jul 6 2022 12:08pm)
ss in that case. redemption would pop all corpses, which means you can't hork. horking is what makes zerks a high-end pvm char


very interesting. How does he manage in p8 with mf/goldfind gear ? I get the feeling that barbs need better sustain when going berserk.
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Jul 6 2022 01:16pm
You want to kill quick, it cut a lot of dmg you could take... and maximise killing time vs drop by having more mf/gf
You can go and try to go full sustain and be a slow killer using death but it will just be a loss of time vs return, grief is the only option as mainhand dont lose your time
That build is specialized for pit and trav running if you want to chaos run fast for drop you should look at another build

This post was edited by BoRuSS_QC on Jul 6 2022 01:18pm
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Quote (BoRuSS_QC @ Jul 6 2022 03:16pm)
You want to kill quick, it cut a lot of dmg you could take... and maximise killing time vs drop by having more mf/gf
You can go and try to go full sustain and be a slow killer using death but it will just be a loss of time vs return, grief is the only option as mainhand dont lose your time
That build is specialized for pit and trav running if you want to chaos run fast for drop you should look at another build


Yeah i'm not looking for speed run, I want a good all rounder that can clear anything in hell p1-p4. I don't see where swapping from 6x lem'ed pb to ss shield would slow me down while running, if blocking couple hits from non feared mobs.

Grief pb seems legit better in every aspect vs death, don't you think?

Thanks for sharing thoughts :)
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