I know this question along with “Windforce vs Faith” is brought up a ton, but my question is what breakpoint are people aiming for?

My understanding is that with Windforce, 89% ias gets you to the desired breakpoint. Why are people paying 10k fg for 45ias/120ed helms when it can easily be met with a 2os with skills/res/dex/life?

Sheal’d WF, IAS gloves, 30ias in helm and highlords gets you there.

With Faith you need even less!

Is this so that you can focus on fcr for a hybrid? Am I missing something?

Thanks for all the help in advance

You need to first understand how to get to the break points before comparing Faith with Windforce, and you also need to seperate PvM from PvP.

for PvM sure you can have a merc using faith and you can use windforce.
for PvP you wont have a merc so you need to get IAS on your character to hit the right IAS frame rate.

Faith GMB needs 89%. Windforce is slower so it needs more (without getting fana from merc/ally).

Windforce needs 147% ias for 8 frames.
Faith GMB needs 92% ias for 7 frames.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 2 2022 10:26am

thanks for this.

8 frames for Windforce
7 frames for Faith GMB

these are the best possible scenarios I assume? Or can we reach higher?

those are the fastest

Windforce + faith merc is best for pvm

do you happen to have a link to other ias breakpoints for windforce?

9 frames for example, if I want to run Fort / Windforce and no merc.

Thanks