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Jun 2 2022 10:58am
I decided this ladder season to only use a barbarian for the entirety of ladder. Right I am level 93 (#53 on barb ladder as of yesteday) and have the typical WW barb (Dual Grief, enig, gore riders etc). I just got my enigma yesterday and I wanted to become a super clearer.

I want to do Trav>Nihl>Pindle>Chaos>Cows>Pit all on a barb and I had the idea of making a Grief+Beast Zerker Axe Frenzy Barb with the goal of giving my dual Grief PB's to an A5 Merc and eventually putting a last wish on the barb merc (way down the line)

Has anyone tried this out? I've seen videos of frenzy barbs destroying the cow level and I think with enigma, I can clear lvl85 areas faster than a pitzerker. I'd love your thoughts.

Final build will be:

Beast Grief Zerker Axes

Enigma

Gore Riders

Arachnids mesh

Arreats

+2 FCR ammy

Laying of hands/Steelrends (depending on zone)

Alibabas on switch.
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Jun 2 2022 11:43am
zerker can use a 6 ist pb in off hand is his advantage, frenzy is good for the fun of it all due to the fast run speed. in terms of damage your dual pb setup would still be supreme though

This post was edited by yaf on Jun 2 2022 11:44am
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Jun 2 2022 11:49am
Quote (yaf @ Jun 2 2022 10:43am)
zerker can use a 6 ist pb in off hand is his advantage, frenzy is good for the fun of it all due to the fast run speed. in terms of damage your dual pb setup would still be supreme though



That’s good to know as far as damage output is concerned. I think I just have a curiosity that just won’t subside until I try it. I think I’m gonna stay ww for now and just try beast grief and stay +1 frenzy for the LOL.
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Jun 2 2022 01:37pm
Grief + Beast zAxe for the 2-range is the truth.
Infin on an A2 Might Merc means your AR% is taken care of due to Infin's -defense, and you have good scaling.

This post was edited by Exokek on Jun 2 2022 01:38pm
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Quote (Exokek @ Jun 2 2022 12:37pm)
Grief + Beast zAxe for the 2-range is the truth.
Infin on an A2 Might Merc means your AR% is taken care of due to Infin's -defense, and you have good scaling.



I went for the memes and put my pb grief’s on magnus (a5 merc) and had fun slicing through chaos. The damage output is definitely nice with beast + grief

This post was edited by 9voltgorilla on Jun 3 2022 07:50am
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Jun 3 2022 02:24pm
With no disrespect to frenzy

Use whirlwind its way way way better(like you already use) here some changes



Grief pb/griefpb can change with 1 eth death cs(but when cursed(decrepify)it aint better)

Enigma(pvm without teleport is crap)

Guillaume helm cb/deadly sry but arreats dont even come close, i dont like the quillaune look to, but its just to strong to skip

Loh always 20 ias 350 demons nice fire res
Raven frost
Dual leech ring
Arach/ if nn 105 fcr use string of ears
Gore rider
Highlord

On switch wiz+spirit with arach 105 fcr tele
Or if wanna hork 2x alibaba

Merc
Eth reapers toll(thats why enigma you want that curse with you, decrepify>>>>>fort 300ed)
Eth treachery, faster more decrepify casted
Eth andy (same faster for decrepify)


Charms

14max 70x ar or max ar life

Stat to like 2k life

Rest strenght, every str is 1ed


But use ww(same eq i listed ;) )
Its the most damage fastest barb
There is

This post was edited by xXHeisenbergXx on Jun 3 2022 02:42pm
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Jun 3 2022 03:56pm
Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ Jun 3 2022 01:24pm)
With no disrespect to frenzy

Use whirlwind its way way way better(like you already use) here some changes



Grief pb/griefpb can change with 1 eth death cs(but when cursed(decrepify)it aint better)

Enigma(pvm without teleport is crap)

Guillaume helm cb/deadly sry but arreats dont even come close, i dont like the quillaune look to, but its just to strong to skip

Loh always 20 ias 350 demons nice fire res
Raven frost
Dual leech ring
Arach/ if nn 105 fcr use string of ears
Gore rider
Highlord

On switch wiz+spirit with arach 105 fcr tele
Or if wanna hork 2x alibaba

Merc
Eth reapers toll(thats why enigma you want that curse with you, decrepify>>>>>fort 300ed)
Eth treachery, faster more decrepify casted
Eth andy (same faster for decrepify)


Charms

14max 70x ar or max ar life

Stat to like 2k life

Rest strenght, every str is 1ed


But use ww(same eq i listed ;) )
Its the most damage fastest barb
There is



Mother fucker. I just sold a bunch of gfaces.
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Quote (9voltgorilla @ Jun 3 2022 11:56pm)
Mother fucker. I just sold a bunch of gfaces.



Haha sry man

They are cheap
:lol:
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Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ Jun 4 2022 04:24am)
With no disrespect to frenzy

Use whirlwind its way way way better(like you already use) here some changes



Grief pb/griefpb can change with 1 eth death cs(but when cursed(decrepify)it aint better)

Enigma(pvm without teleport is crap)

Guillaume helm cb/deadly sry but arreats dont even come close, i dont like the quillaune look to, but its just to strong to skip

Loh always 20 ias 350 demons nice fire res
Raven frost
Dual leech ring
Arach/ if nn 105 fcr use string of ears
Gore rider
Highlord

On switch wiz+spirit with arach 105 fcr tele
Or if wanna hork 2x alibaba

Merc
Eth reapers toll(thats why enigma you want that curse with you, decrepify>>>>>fort 300ed)
Eth treachery, faster more decrepify casted
Eth andy (same faster for decrepify)


Charms

14max 70x ar or max ar life

Stat to like 2k life

Rest strenght, every str is 1ed


But use ww(same eq i listed ;) )
Its the most damage fastest barb
There is



This is the answer
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Jun 8 2022 01:56pm
There are legit reasons to use arreats over gface, like strength bonus, leech, res, attack rating, plus to skills etc etc. More so the leech since you are using dual griefs, which have fuck all for leech.

Gface gives 15% deadly which after your crit strike chance goes to more like 9% chance of double damage and crushing blow is entirely overrated for general pvm. Its fine for a cheap helmet.

I also use pride merc on my whirlwind barb most of the time because by the time he procs decrep the targets are already dead, might as well stack on an extra 350 ED that stays on all the time.

Sure it's not as good for killing baal himself but I already skullfuck diablo in like 3 whirls.

Swap to gface and then try arreats and time your runs you will notice almost zero difference. The arreats will allow you to whirl with more reckless abandon because it actually has leech and defensive stats like res.

Melee in this game is like driving a shitty car. You're not winning any speed records, you might as well go with the smoothest ride amd the most comfortable seats.

On swap I like using cheap dual hotos. Easy 63 fcr breakpoint, 6 to skills good mix between speed and a shitload more life from bo.
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