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May 31 2022 05:09am
Since i don't know much about barbs i just wanna ask for your opinions about:

What would you rather pick for a WW and a ZERK barb, BOTD or Grief, and why?

my thoughts:

BOTD > Since it has massive leeches, high IAS roll and ED. +30 Att
Grief > Ignore defence and fast base.

In general i see BOTD as the better weapon?

Thank you in advance!
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May 31 2022 05:19am
in general Grief. avg dmg is higher by about 90 (both rolls perfect...) and with 34 ias berserker axe you already hit the fastest breakpoint.
BotD only if you want to clear full areas in PvM, since it offers dual leach and indestructible mod, so you don't need to repair the weapon
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May 31 2022 10:38am
2 x Grief pb for pvm
Grief ba + beast/stormshield for pvp
Botd ba is for shapers on d2lod, and it seems grief ba or pb is the better choice for those as well now.
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May 31 2022 11:16am
Grief >
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ 31 May 2022 13:19)
in general Grief. avg dmg is higher by about 90 (both rolls perfect...) and with 34 ias berserker axe you already hit the fastest breakpoint.
BotD only if you want to clear full areas in PvM, since it offers dual leach and indestructible mod, so you don't need to repair the weapon


Quote (gel87 @ 31 May 2022 18:38)
2 x Grief pb for pvm
Grief ba + beast/stormshield for pvp
Botd ba is for shapers on d2lod, and it seems grief ba or pb is the better choice for those as well now.


Quote (NeedUlikeAdrug @ 31 May 2022 19:16)
Grief >


Aight tyvm :)!
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ May 31 2022 01:19pm)
in general Grief. avg dmg is higher by about 90 (both rolls perfect...) and with 34 ias berserker axe you already hit the fastest breakpoint.
BotD only if you want to clear full areas in PvM, since it offers dual leach and indestructible mod, so you don't need to repair the weapon


if i use the standard IAS calculators that google provides me i do not get max breakpoints at 34 IAS.

It would look something like this:



note that this is with base frenzy and no equipment IAS - with these factored in i still don't hit the top however. have i been using them wrongly?
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Quote (Hoppediz @ Jun 1 2022 03:59pm)
if i use the standard IAS calculators that google provides me i do not get max breakpoints at 34 IAS.

that is correct, but OP asked for WW breakpoints. for frenzy, breakpoints are of course different ;)
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Jun 1 2022 04:25pm)
that is correct, but OP asked for WW breakpoints. for frenzy, breakpoints are of course different ;)


my bad - that is absolutely correct
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Quote (Organized @ May 31 2022 06:09am)
Since i don't know much about barbs i just wanna ask for your opinions about:

What would you rather pick for a WW and a ZERK barb, BOTD or Grief, and why?

my thoughts:

BOTD > Since it has massive leeches, high IAS roll and ED. +30 Att
Grief > Ignore defence and fast base.

In general i see BOTD as the better weapon?

Thank you in advance!



Grief beats botd by around 30-40%

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