So I plan to try a dragon tail sin with Dtail/TStrike, along with Venom maxed out.

Build thoughts around :

- Bramble
- Phoenix shield
- Trang gloves
- Death's web
- 2os sin circ with 2x psn facets
- Dancers
- Merc Infinity



After reading some guides, it seems that Dtail can reach insane dmg already without too much invesment.

When I estimate dmg with fully maxed venom, 20 skills + 20 skills from items, + 85%psn dmg , -65% psn res
Does about 3.2k venom dmg over 0.4 sec

Main question :

Should I consider Venom/DTalon as 2nd dmg output ? If so, is my build viable or should I still aim as main web a physical curse from lawbringer or eth lacerator ?

Thanks !

Venom sucks


Building around venom is terrible

explain yourself ?

It's easy to assume that it sucks without explaining it.

Iso more opinions

You are only doing 3.2k over .4 seconds.

That’s bad.


Phoenix is bad for sin as you can’t use death sentry to blow up corpses.




There is just so much wrong with this idea there isn’t anywhere to start

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on May 12 2022 01:55pm

This is a guide for Dtail/Tstrike as primary and Venom/Dtalon as second.
Where do you see Death Sentry in that ?

Anyway, looking for more opinions, thanks.

That’s the problem. There isn’t death sentry lol

lol hahaha

Yeah but man, I'm using other source of dmg in PvM to avoid using Phys/Fire dmg (immunities). Death Sentry is kinda bad for that specific case

To help your kill speed, I would remove Phoenix shield.

If you are hell bent on using venom, a 4x facet shield would be better. That way you can also use death sentry to do AoE damage.

Poison duration is doubled in hell, so you are only really able to do poison damage in .8 second increments. Meaning you can only apply a full duration venom every .8 seconds. And venom doesn’t stack. So after you apply venom once, the only thing really doing additional damage during that .8 second window, is your physical damage from kick or your traps.

Additionally - poison resist also increases the duration of venom. I can’t remember off hand exactly how that is calculated. But that will make the poison duration longer than .8


You really need deaths sentry


You are essentially acting as a rift sin. Which useS rift to proc frozen orb and then death sentry after 1 monster dies to blow up the screen. Instead of rift, you are using venom to accomplish this goal. Albeit at less effectiveness

Addrionally, venom does not have any AoE properties such as Rabies being able to infect other monsters close to it. And since it’s damage is low as compared to other single hit skills (such as blessed hammer even tho blessed hammer can hit multiple monsters) and being able to cast blessed hammer faster than once every .8 seconds, the fact you are only able to damage one monster at a time severely limits a venom build.

You need AoE damage to make thus build even remotely viable. And that’s from death sentry

Thanks for the input

How is rift sin doing with frozen orb p8 ? Would it be good to use NW ?