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May 12 2022 01:02am
Hello guys,

a question about pierce and the benefits from using Razortail over Tgod.

Let suppose you gor 75% from passive and 33% from Razortail, how does the % of pierce is applied?

1) First applies (order is not relevant) 75% and if it fails goes with 33%, meaning that you have a total of [0.75 + (0.25*0.33)] = 83.25% of pierce
2) It's a linear sum of 75% + 33% and you always pierce?

Because I've tested them both ans seems like 2) is not happening, because I still miss some pierce with Razortail but I'm not sure if maybe I'm losing some fps.

On the web everyone says that Razortail is way better for pierce, but if it's 1) then Thundergos imho is more value.

Thank you :)

This post was edited by matt_bg on May 12 2022 01:02am
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May 12 2022 01:51am
Quote (matt_bg @ May 12 2022 03:02pm)
Hello guys,

a question about pierce and the benefits from using Razortail over Tgod.

Let suppose you gor 75% from passive and 33% from Razortail, how does the % of pierce is applied?

1) First applies (order is not relevant) 75% and if it fails goes with 33%, meaning that you have a total of [0.75 + (0.25*0.33)] = 83.25% of pierce
2) It's a linear sum of 75% + 33% and you always pierce?

Because I've tested them both ans seems like 2) is not happening, because I still miss some pierce with Razortail but I'm not sure if maybe I'm losing some fps.

On the web everyone says that Razortail is way better for pierce, but if it's 1) then Thundergos imho is more value.

Thank you :)



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May 12 2022 01:59am
You gotta realize that you can pierce 4 times aka you can hit 5 targets in total. The calculation of pierce works in addition so if you have 67 (69% cos 67 doesn’t exist) from the skill and 33 from razortail you’ll have 100% and if mobs are lined up you will always pierce 4 times and hit 5 times ur lightning fury

Damage wise thundergod doesn’t come even remotely close to razortail cos it’s far more important to pierce to proc more furies than the little bit of extra damage tg provides.

If you have only 75% pierce per target the chances keep getting slimmer to pierce the next ones
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May 12 2022 02:56am
Have a look at Wisdom runeword. It frees up your belt and ring slot. takes care of all of your mana problems. You can wear thundergods and not die during baal runs by wearing thundergods. Instead of a ravenfrost wear 2x soj or bk to compensate.

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Have a look at Wisdom runeword. It frees up your belt and ring slot. takes care of all of your mana problems. You can wear thundergods and not die during baal runs by wearing thundergods. Instead of a ravenfrost wear soj or bk to compensate.



This is true but griffon+razortail is a lot better ^^

Griffon just gives absurd amounts of dmg, I dnno what runes are needed for wisdom but it could be a fun budget option with tg

I prefer using Valkyrie wing as budget for mana after each kill with razortail

This post was edited by Stefbef on May 12 2022 02:57am
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Quote (Stefbef @ May 12 2022 10:57am)
This is true but griffon+razortail is a lot better ^^

Griffon just gives absurd amounts of dmg, I dnno what runes are needed for wisdom but it could be a fun budget option with tg

I prefer using Valkyrie wing as budget for mana after each kill with razortail


The highest one is a pul. Compare that to looking for griffon :D

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 12 2022 03:00am
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Have a look at Wisdom runeword. It frees up your belt and ring slot. takes care of all of your mana problems. You can wear thundergods and not die during baal runs by wearing thundergods. Instead of a ravenfrost wear 2x soj or bk to compensate.


eh you're right it's not a bad choice, but shako+ptopas probably is hard to replace
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Quote (matt_bg @ May 12 2022 11:00am)
eh you're right it's not a bad choice, but shako+ptopas probably is hard to replace


15ias jewel, that's what belongs there for a java.

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