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May 12 2022 12:31am
Does knockback work in pvp still in d2r? If yes, is it a % chance like pvm? What is the chance or how do u figure it out?
In current pvp meta, can bowazon survive with fort or does she need enigma?
What is the best helm for a mid budget bowa? I currently have giant skull, but was thinking CoA might be better (but costs a lot & high strg req). I've also heard Shako, Guills & Valkyrie are good. (I don't like Andy's its too ugly lol)
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May 12 2022 08:36am
If you don't have a high budget don't pvp with a bowa

But to answer your question, yes knockback works in pvp - every time you hit you will knockback. Fort is viable.

No, CoA is trash and so is giant skull, shako, guills, and valk. All trash.

Your helm should be a 30 frw/3x 15/40'd circ, you get your knockback from 2/20/stat/res gloves.

But again, if you don't have the budget for it (all the gear you need to be viable is very expensive) I wouldn't recommend it.
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Quote (YellowYellowYellowYellowYellow @ 12 May 2022 16:36)
If you don't have a high budget don't pvp with a bowa

But to answer your question, yes knockback works in pvp - every time you hit you will knockback. Fort is viable.

No, CoA is trash and so is giant skull, shako, guills, and valk. All trash.

Your helm should be a 30 frw/3x 15/40'd circ, you get your knockback from 2/20/stat/res gloves.

But again, if you don't have the budget for it (all the gear you need to be viable is very expensive) I wouldn't recommend it.



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May 13 2022 01:04am
For runner: 2zon/30frw/2os and 30frw/3os with 15ias/ed or max jools.
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for tele: 2zon/20fcr/2os and 20fcr/3os with 15ias/ed or max jools.

You can try to get 2zon/20fcr/30frw/2os+adds but it will cost you at least kidney.

They are not that expensive, except 30frw/3os. Rest of them you can get for 150-500fg. Budget helm for Forti-GMB can be only 3os/20frw tiara :) You have to run fast or you will be gone.
Forti-runner bowa have zero chance in few matchups but works really nice in tvt. However some people don't want to play with or against bowa in tvt.
Imho best you can do is build hybrid telebowa. There are few reliable tutorials based on bow and cs/fury/plague.
Like Yellow said - you can't build budget pvp bowa.

This post was edited by gratek on May 13 2022 01:05am
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Quote (gratek @ May 13 2022 02:04am)
For runner: 2zon/30frw/2os and 30frw/3os with 15ias/ed or max jools.
or
for tele: 2zon/20fcr/2os and 20fcr/3os with 15ias/ed or max jools.

You can try to get 2zon/20fcr/30frw/2os+adds but it will cost you at least kidney.

They are not that expensive, except 30frw/3os. Rest of them you can get for 150-500fg. Budget helm for Forti-GMB can be only 3os/20frw tiara :) You have to run fast or you will be gone.
Forti-runner bowa have zero chance in few matchups but works really nice in tvt. However some people don't want to play with or against bowa in tvt.
Imho best you can do is build hybrid telebowa. There are few reliable tutorials based on bow and cs/fury/plague.
Like Yellow said - you can't build budget pvp bowa.


I'm not tryin to be competitive, I don't care if I die a lot. I just want to try it out and actually be able to kill a few people. I used to have a leet gg necro for dueling, I expect they are probably better than bowazon generally anyway b/c fcr/tele & magic dmg.

So it sounds like 20frw/3os helm or 30frw/2os helm? Which is better or more affordable?
Why is this so much better than CoA when you can get frw charms in you inventory & CoA gives so many survival stats including dr which u can't get in charms? or do you need loads of frw charms + frw helm to survive?
How much frw minimum would you need to survive?
I was planning on wearing cats eye and switching to titans/ss when ppl close in on me.

Also to my previous question, is knockback viable in pvp? Does it even help with all the tele stomping in pvp?




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May 13 2022 09:47am
For runner zon you are looking for:
- 30frw 3os tiara if you use Faith GMB or
- +2zon 30frw 2os tiara if you use Faith Shadow /Diamond /Mb.
20frw is just a cheaper option. But if you can just get 30frw - you need as much as possible frw.

Gmb variant gives you higher dmg.
Shadow/Diamond/Mat gives you flexibility on belt slot and +2zon makes you all passive skills stronger.

This post was edited by gratek on May 13 2022 09:48am
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For runner zon you are looking for:
- 30frw 3os tiara if you use Faith GMB or
- +2zon 30frw 2os tiara if you use Faith Shadow /Diamond /Mb.
20frw is just a cheaper option. But if you can just get 30frw - you need as much as possible frw.

Gmb variant gives you higher dmg.
Shadow/Diamond/Mat gives you flexibility on belt slot and +2zon makes you all passive skills stronger.


Thanks! Also, life leach sucks horribly in pvp right? it's been a while since I've used a physical dmg char in pvp

And what about knockback, any use at all?

This post was edited by stoskri on May 13 2022 09:53am
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Yeah, life leech sucks. Can be useful only against dudu with big zoo.
Tbh I played only once since Blizz has released patch 2.4 and I didn't notice is still important or not. It was for sure.
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Quote (gratek @ May 13 2022 11:00am)
Yeah, life leech sucks. Can be useful only against dudu with big zoo.
Tbh I played only once since Blizz has released patch 2.4 and I didn't notice is still important or not. It was for sure.


hey thanks for all the advice, I got a 30frw/30ares 2os circlet for 240fg, seems like a smokin deal considering the 3os ones go for 1.2k+
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hey thanks for all the advice, I got a 30frw/30ares 2os circlet for 240fg, seems like a smokin deal considering the 3os ones go for 1.2k+


Probably for similar price you can get 2ama/30frw/2os but this is nice as well.
Keep it in mind now you won't hit 7fpa on GMB. 3os tiara is mandatory.
You can choose between Shadow/Diamond/Mat.

GMB need 13+fana and 95 gear ias - 45 tiara, 20 gloves, 20 ammy, 10 belt.
Shadow/Diamond needs 12-13 fana and 70 gear ias or 14-15 fana and 65 gear ias - 30 tiara, 20 gloves, 20 ammy.
Mat needs 12-13 fana and 50 gear ias or 14-15 fana and 45 gear ias - 20 gloves, 20 ammy, 15 tiara.

This post was edited by gratek on May 13 2022 04:50pm
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