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May 7 2022 05:01pm
can some1 tell me for pvp what do druids socket these with normally?
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Life/Res jewels.
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Or 7fhr/res. 7fhr is equivalent of 20 or 40 life in sc's. However I don't know that 99fhr bp is still important in 2.4.
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May 8 2022 08:30am
20/15 but in d2r wizzy is arguably a lot better than sui

(Especially if ur budget isn’t 100k fg)

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What makes wizzy a lot better?
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What makes wizzy a lot better?



Fhr breakpoints are lower with weapons that have stab animation, and also, wsg is out of the game so before you needed to make sure you had max resistance on both swaps, now you only need maximum resistance on your primary swap

So by using wizzy you get so much mana and resist that you could basically aim for clean 10 fcr 20 str 60 life rings and just a clean 2/18/60 amulet rather than people spending ten thousands fg on a 2 druid 18 fcr 30 life 15@ amu for example.

You lose 1 skill, you lose 40 life, but you gain a ton of mana and resistance and need less fhr, which opens up so much flexibility and high roll stuff on other pieces

You can even use pair of shadow dancers to alrdy hit 85 fhr since you no longer rly need the fire resist from aldur

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Quote (Stefbef @ May 8 2022 04:50pm)
Fhr breakpoints are lower with weapons that have stab animation, and also, wsg is out of the game so before you needed to make sure you had max resistance on both swaps, now you only need maximum resistance on your primary swap

So by using wizzy you get so much mana and resist that you could basically aim for clean 10 fcr 20 str 60 life rings and just a clean 2/18/60 amulet rather than people spending ten thousands fg on a 2 druid 18 fcr 30 life 15@ amu for example.

You lose 1 skill, you lose 40 life, but you gain a ton of mana and resistance and need less fhr, which opens up so much flexibility and high roll stuff on other pieces

You can even use pair of shadow dancers to alrdy hit 85 fhr since you no longer rly need the fire resist from aldur


I'm not agree with you but got your point :)

As a branch user I don't have issue with resistance. I'm used to gear swap and I just mixing 20life/single res sc's. However in most of setups I have 75 or almost 75 fr/cr/lr. In some matchups you don't need res at all.
Mana is a thing but you have potions which are allowed in many leagues and pubs.

86fhr (not 85) could be someting but in 2.4 probably you can go 1 bp down without sacrifice anything (with spirit you have to add 1 or 8fhr). Keep it in mind it's not so easy put in fhr animation dudu with 7-8k life :)
Recently I was playing my Zon against trapsin and I had zero issue with teleout from mb. 48fcr (14fps) and 20fhr (8fps) on the board. She is super slow comparing to common druid's 9 and 6 frames.

Also wizzy needs 75dex or 64 if you put -15req inside. Basically you need perf stat torch, anni and waterwalks (only 20frw). Or in second option you have to figure out from somewhere 4+dex.
You can wear Dancers but you have to get 11str above spirit requirements, sacrifice 10frw and 50life (150+ with oak and bo). From other side you will get fhr which is not that crucial anymore.

Don't understimate +1 skill from branch. Higher oak and bo level = more life.

Some time ago I was thinking about this, both are close, but I've decided to wear Branch.
Wizzy probably can be better option in case of budget friendly build.

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Quote (gratek @ 8 May 2022 17:26)
I'm not agree with you but got your point :)

As a branch user I don't have issue with resistance. I'm used to gear swap and I just mixing 20life/single res sc's. However in most of setups I have 75 or almost 75 fr/cr/lr. In some matchups you don't need res at all.
Mana is a thing but you have potions which are allowed in many leagues and pubs.

86fhr (not 85) could be someting but in 2.4 probably you can go 1 bp down without sacrifice anything (with spirit you have to add 1 or 8fhr). Keep it in mind it's not so easy put in fhr animation dudu with 7-8k life :)
Recently I was playing my Zon against trapsin and I had zero issue with teleout from mb. 48fcr (14fps) and 20fhr (8fps) on the board. She is super slow comparing to common druid's 9 and 6 frames.

Also wizzy needs 75dex or 64 if you put -15req inside. Basically you need perf stat torch, anni and waterwalks (only 20frw). Or in second option you have to figure out from somewhere 4+dex.
You can wear Dancers but you have to get 11str above spirit requirements, sacrifice 10frw and 50life (150+ with oak and bo). From other side you will get fhr which is not that crucial anymore.

Don't understimate +1 skill from branch. Higher oak and bo level = more life.

Some time ago I was thinking about this, both are close, but I've decided to wear Branch.
Wizzy probably can be better option in case of budget friendly build.



True but you also gotta keep in mind that oak is one of the most overrated skills in the entire game, 90% of the time you receive damage when the oak is dead, that’s why Jah > ruby in helms for example.

But it has some damage yes and the 40 life does help, I personally just prefer using wizzy so I don’t have to get 99 fhr

But u are right on the dancers part :>

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Quote (Stefbef @ May 8 2022 11:44am)
True but you also gotta keep in mind that oak is one of the most overrated skills in the entire game, 90% of the time you receive damage when the oak is dead, that’s why Jah > ruby in helms for example.

But it has some damage yes and the 40 life does help, I personally just prefer using wizzy so I don’t have to get 99 fhr

But u are right on the dancers part :>


what about using a spirit sword? over the wiz keep aldurs and forget dancers
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