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Nov 11 2018 08:27pm
Looking to make a lvl 30 LLD Character, just wonder
What classes/builds are best for LLD? I looked at the guides and was not impressed with the variety.

Is Zeal viable for LLD?

Throw Barb??

Bow zon???
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Nov 11 2018 08:34pm
Libby/fb sorc best. Powerful and cheap af to build

Bowzon is great if you know how to use one. Most don’t tho

Throw barb pretty bad
Zeal is okay I guess.
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Nov 11 2018 08:55pm
There can be plenty of variety but as Dongdale said, its hard to beat a libby or fb, especially for the cost.

If you have any build specific questions feel free to drop me a pm. Some of those guides could do with a little tweaking.

This post was edited by bonnerf2 on Nov 11 2018 08:56pm
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There's more build variety at 30 than there is at 99 so I'm not sure what you're talking about

Tier 1 (best builds) would be libby/fireball/firewall/bowazon
Tier 2 (builds that still work well) would be telebarb/necro/trap/plague/windy/charger/hdin/blizz/hybsin
Tier 3 (builds that sometimes work) would be cs zon/fury/maul/kicker/bfsin/light sorc/fire druid/summoner/psn nec
Tier 4 is just rpg standing alone because he always loses even on t1 builds
Tier 6 would be v/t or smiter

I might be missing a few builds.

Throwbarb is better as a level 18 build.
Going throw+ww hybrid at 30 means your char doesn't have teleport and teleport is what made barb viable in the first place

This post was edited by Worrywart on Nov 11 2018 08:56pm
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Quote (Worrywart @ Nov 12 2018 03:56am)
There's more build variety at 30 than there is at 99 so I'm not sure what you're talking about

Tier 1 (best builds) would be libby/fireball/firewall/bowazon
Tier 2 (builds that still work well) would be telebarb/necro/trap/plague/windy/charger/hdin/blizz/hybsin
Tier 3 (builds that sometimes work) would be cs zon/fury/maul/kicker/bfsin/light sorc/fire druid/summoner/psn nec
Tier 4 is just rpg standing alone because he always loses even on t1 builds
Tier 6 would be v/t or smiter

I might be missing a few builds.

Throwbarb is better as a level 18 build.
Going throw+ww hybrid at 30 means your char doesn't have teleport and teleport is what made barb viable in the first place


Non tele ww barbs can work fine vs most chars. I think rudipk is proving that on east atm and i expect the barbs arent even built to efficiently be played as frw.

This post was edited by bonnerf2 on Nov 11 2018 08:58pm
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Non tele ww barbs can work fine vs most chars. I think rudipk is proving that on east atm and i expect the barbs arent even built to efficiently be played as frw.


I guess? The only time I can think of where I've lost a ft5 to a frw barb was when I didn't have enough frw on my trapper.

That might be as you say and nobody has a good frw barb
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Quote (Worrywart @ Nov 11 2018 07:56pm)
There's more build variety at 30 than there is at 99 so I'm not sure what you're talking about

Tier 1 (best builds) would be libby/fireball/firewall/bowazon
Tier 2 (builds that still work well) would be telebarb/necro/trap/plague/windy/charger/hdin/blizz/hybsin
Tier 3 (builds that sometimes work) would be cs zon/fury/maul/kicker/bfsin/light sorc/fire druid/summoner/psn nec
Tier 4 is just rpg standing alone because he always loses even on t1 builds
Tier 6 would be v/t or smiter

I might be missing a few builds.

Throwbarb is better as a level 18 build.
Going throw+ww hybrid at 30 means your char doesn't have teleport and teleport is what made barb viable in the first place


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