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Feb 21 2012 08:02pm
I was trying to make a character that could kill hell baal and I only have about 43 fg left. I figured a barb would be kinda cheap but I have no idea what kind of weapon to use, all the runewords would probably be to expensive I was thinking a grandfather sword but I haven't even seen those around anymore. Sorry its been a while since I played and all my characters expired. Maybe theres a cheaper something I could make let me know any suggestions.
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Feb 21 2012 08:14pm
If you want a cheapish barb try this

Max frenzy
Max bo
Max sword mastery
1 pt iron skin, stamina, nat res, inc speed, ww, zerk, find item
Rest frenzy synergies

Oath eth balrog blade x2
Durress
Guills pruby/ort/um
Dracs
String of ears
Gore riders
Highlords
Raven
Dwarf/raven/wisp

Or opt for a full ik barb and go whirl
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Feb 21 2012 08:32pm
Sounds like IK would be perfect if your leaning towards a ww barb.


If you want to make a good zerk barb cheapo ;

make a pdr oath build with Gerkes. Great tank, good kill speed and hc safe!

the bonus here is the best stuff you can simply shop with a little patience.
No high runes required here.
You get some style points for the neat build, and can impress all with your seemingly endless tanking.

Quote (Master_Zappy @ Nov 20 2011 03:05pm)
pdr zerker, you can afk sammich time and live until the durability of your stuff breaks and then you start taking damage. If your actively playing, your immortal. A drunken monkey could play this.

Arreats/gface /Artisans hat of life everlasting ' sol
Ammy of life everlasting ~25 pdr (second mods are icing)
Gerkes shield Sol
Grief pb (oath small crescent/highland if poor, oath has magic sorb which is n1)
Iron Pelt sol ' , Jewelers Armor of Amicea Sol' is the best. Up to 43 reduction here. Gbane Sol'.
Gore Rider boots
Laying of hands gloves
Tgods Belt (or Soe)
1 Nature's Peace + 1 dwarf if Gbane.  1 ravenfrost+nature peace on the other armors.
swap of preference. Tele staff/Ali's for mf-gf/ bo sticks



A5 barb with Lawbringer Legend sword, gbane and arreats sol'
A2 reapers might merc.

If your going to run a bunch of d keys the barb merc is best unless you have a tyreals might to use on the merc so it obtains the rest after peace mod. (that comes on lawbringer)
Sanctuary aura has a knockback aura that keeps you really safe around undead. (on a really safe build)





you can run by monsters willy nilly. You dont take damage with that mercs decrep active that isnt in piddly amounts.
Because your a zerk barb, you still have acceptable damage for pvm. You come with max howl,  and leap.

Life doesnt matter, block doesnt matter, dr% doesnt matter, Fhr is irrelevant. . All that matters is pdr/mdr on gear, get your res from inventory. Once max, increase your AR and damage.


you'll end up around ~120 pdr / 60-70 mdr.  (gogo spillover) and monsters dealing half their damage due to Decrep (or battle cry)

Since the majority of damage done in small games in pvm is less then 200 even with global crit, it'll be rare you get hurt. What does exceed your reduction threshold is so minor you can laugh it off.


This is the ultimate hc safety barb, who does awesome at running your d keys and popping chaos seals since he can just run right by and through stuff.



rawr!







you wouldnt think so, but a titan whirler is very safe for hc.
25K average damage per hit means you leach ridiculous life, and usually 1 shot monsters.






Frenzy has lots of options at a variety of budgets.
Rancorn's Barb is a great option if you can swing it, oath is the defacto premium beat stick if your not using hr's.

Just be sure to google "d2 ias calc" Take the 2nd link. once you've decided on your weps.




Here's a detailed guide for Frenzy ;

Strategy and Guides > Frenzy Guide For D2lod V1.12++
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=38476029&f=87

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Feb 21 2012 08:44pm
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Feb 22 2012 09:18am
I think the IK barb is what I'll choose, with a couple p topaz's in the helmet would running hell baal find me some loot? I like to do mf runs but with my sorc I could never do hell baal which Ive heard has the best drops.
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Feb 22 2012 09:21am
Quote (spritetx @ 22 Feb 2012 17:18)
I think the IK barb is what I'll choose, with a couple p topaz's in the helmet would running hell baal find me some loot? I like to do mf runs but with my sorc I could never do hell baal which Ive heard has the best drops.

If you're going to use IK baba for mf'ing, it's better to go places where you can get easily by running.
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Feb 22 2012 09:54am
Quote (RaBBit3x @ Feb 22 2012 10:21am)
If you're going to use IK baba for mf'ing, it's better to go places where you can get easily by running.


+1.



Quote (Master_Zappy @ Nov 23 2011 03:02pm)
Its probably more boring, but the best "MF route" is not wasting any travel time with non static maps.  I'd only do chaos. If you clear the map and D in under 3 mins, I'd then do Nith, shenk and eld. Rinse and repeat.

Meph and andy dont drop anybetter then Diablo, and it takes longer to find both of them then it does to clear the map in chaos.Not to mention river and chaos is ilvl 85.  The monsters are friendlier too, no dolls to worry about.

So if your "mf'ing" dont dilly dally, focus and clear one fast spot. You'll prob end up still running countess when you want runes and keys of course, and since the only pub end game content now is baal runs, you'll still get a change of pace. Its all about the gross number of runs in the end.

Chaos is where its at.


Strategy and Guides > Guide To The Basics Of Mf% V 2.0
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=19480795&f=87&o=0

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Feb 22 2012 10:46am
Thank you for all your guys help, chaos is where ill mf at for sure. Also the only reason Im using the barb to mf is because its cheap to build one and I've always used a sorc for killing andy or meph and never really found anything good so I figured I'd give the barb a go.
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Feb 22 2012 11:08am
+1 to IK

Don't forget Find Item!
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Feb 22 2012 12:12pm
What should I use find item on?
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Feb 22 2012 12:14pm
Quote (spritetx @ 22 Feb 2012 20:12)
What should I use find item on?

Corpses.
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