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Jun 25 2026 02:43pm
just skip the guardians thunder and go 15/3 maek in griffon or what?

anyone thought this through?
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Jun 25 2026 04:31pm
Yeah if you want the best QoL it's still titans + 15/3maek
In RotW you can push the dmg even further with -10 extra light pen on the renewed sunder and using horazon boots means you free the raven slot for a +5% light opalvein

At this point, the dmg is already more than enough... It won't really make a difference in the number of fury thrown, only for your kill speed vs high tier heralds.
The real downside is you lose the extra 3-5% xp from the jewel

110/115=95.7% the xp without it (assuming perf anni and jewel xp)

The question is...
is that 4.3% bonus xp good enough to eclipse those things:
less/no repair (town travel)
cube swaps (titans has higher stack size)
more leech (potential potting)
titans also comes with 40 stats, 30frw and +2 passive making you a bit more tanky
is your capacity to endure lesser QoL, as a human (not a bot), strong enough to keep farming as long if you lose some QoL?

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/3heyz80w

I feel like those 3 builds are valid.
A question of personal preferences.
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Jun 25 2026 04:34pm
Yeah if you want the best QoL it's still titans + 15/3maek
In RotW you can push the dmg even further with -10 extra light pen on the renewed sunder and using horazon boots means you free the raven slot for a +5% light opalvein

At this point, the dmg is already more than enough... It won't really make a difference in the number of fury thrown, only for your kill speed vs high tier heralds.
The real downside is you lose the extra 3-5% xp from the jewel

110/115=95.7% the xp without it (assuming perf anni and jewel xp)

The question is...
is that 4.3% bonus xp good enough to eclipse those things:
less/no repair (town travel)
cube swaps (titans has higher stack size)
more leech (potential potting)
titans also comes with 40 stats, 30frw and +2 passive making you a bit more tanky
is your capacity to endure lesser QoL, as a human (not a bot), strong enough to keep farming as long if you lose some QoL?

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/3heyz80w

I feel like those 3 builds are valid.
A question of personal preferences.


what about just ditching 55 ias and going 30 ias? its a bit slower, but would the -10% res and 10% dmg and 5% xp be worth it?

or going 30 and ditching infi merc for a faith a1 one

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jun 25 2026 04:34pm
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what about just ditching 55 ias and going 30 ias? its a bit slower, but would the -10% res and 10% dmg and 5% xp be worth it?

or going 30 and ditching infi merc for a faith a1 one


Going for a faith merc could seriously be an option.
Only need 22ias to reach max throw speed (1 frame faster with less ias).

10/-10 is about as much dmg vs immunes as -17
And infinity is not always applied to all mobs
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Jun 25 2026 04:45pm
55 ias mandatory
infinity must have
crafted gloves 2/20 +maek too
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Jun 25 2026 04:51pm
Going for a faith merc could seriously be an option.
Only need 22ias to reach max throw speed (1 frame faster with less ias).

10/-10 is about as much dmg vs immunes as -17
And infinity is not always applied to all mobs


yea most stuff dies before convi is even applied :D i used to mess around with it during the chaos even but now with much more -res it seems like a real valid option
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Jun 25 2026 05:01pm
Going for a faith merc could seriously be an option.
Only need 22ias to reach max throw speed (1 frame faster with less ias).

10/-10 is about as much dmg vs immunes as -17
And infinity is not always applied to all mobs


im assuming 99 fcr titan 22 ias setup with:

eth upg titan
griffon 15/3 or even 15/15 cos prolly enough maek
spirit
eni
razor
2x opal 3 maek 5 light
2 java 20 ias 3 maek pr lr gloves
horazon boots
-10 sunderer
2 ama 19 fcr 8 ml 20@ amu

a1 faith coh flickering flame merc

you could even ditch an ias frame and go 10-10 jewel in griffon

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jun 25 2026 05:02pm
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