In that I mean i'm not posting a guide, but after testing and playing around doing ubers and p8 content I can answer any questions.. on items builds playstyle, uber tips whatever

I see a lot of mistakes on a lot of videos and guides I see out there so..

This post was edited by Tboner on Feb 22 2026 02:28pm

Kind of curious to hear what you think of firelock vs abyss vs echoing strike? Been debating which one to build for, currently running abyss. Like from your experience would you say one of the 3 is better for overall farming compared to the others and for ubers i assumed echoing strike wins?

echoing strike/fire are both S tier, though the edge goes to echoing strike. there are just so many fire immunes you need sunder + conviction + -fire res on gear where as on echoing strike you just use a cursed demon and suddenly phys immune stone skin just melts like anything else

for ubers echoing strike is pretty easy mode.. i was using it day 2 of ladder to farm ubers

Somehow, you almost make it sound like i should swap from abyss to echoing (not that abyss is bad, but it feels kind of.. slow at times. Time to go investigate what echoing strike even uses as gears

Yes, abyss does feel quite slow in comparison

for a cheap set up you can just use insight,spirit,enigma,trangs,arach, 20fcr circlet or 2 fcr ring, highlords, gores

hits 125fcr bp

Well, that is alongst the lines of what i was expecting to get at some point, but at moment probably more looking into insight, a spirit and then random stuff i can get my hands on that won't make me go bankrupt. Probably going to aim for an eth weapon, and then just improvise ontop on that, and lose my sanity running after a fana-curse heph

vmagi or stealth as a temp armor is fine, and 75fcr bp is fine until you get more geared