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So 10% max lr resist is the same as a wisp and another 5% makes it a wisp and a lo. If that’s the math then why are hotspurs banned and infernos and dwarf gm?

I’m trying to understand logically
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Dec 23 2025 11:27am
it was always below is gm using 85fr + dwarf or 90fr. All other is 80fr + dwarf or 85fr. c/c assa 80fr only

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it was always below is gm using 85fr + dwarf or 90fr. All other is 80fr + dwarf or 85fr. c/c assa 80fr only

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So if you don’t have charge you can use hotspurs but if you do it’s inferno and dwarf?

I’m confused sorry

I’m a smiter was gonna go pro pub and attack everyone now with a spirit shield. So what are the rules for a smiter? That’s the only one I ever heard them say no you can’t.

This post was edited by Nataraja on Dec 23 2025 11:46am
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Dec 23 2025 12:07pm
Hotspurs add 15% max res getting you from 75% to 90%
Wisp is absorb, not max res, so Lo adds 5% max res and wisp adds up to 20% absorb

General gm pvp rules with max res/sorb are as follows,

Max resist of any element is 85% (or 5% max and 20% sorb)
Max absorb of any element is 20%

There are some class exceptions, like necro can use hotspurs or dwarf+10%(like inferno), Zon and Barb can use dual Ravenfrost if under 310 cold res, c/c sin with above level 1 traps can use any absorb at all, others I can’t remember

I haven’t pvp in a while so these may be outdated rules
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Dec 23 2025 12:11pm
Hotspurs add 15% max res getting you from 75% to 90%
Wisp is absorb, not max res, so Lo adds 5% max res and wisp adds up to 20% absorb

General gm pvp rules with max res/sorb are as follows,

Max resist of any element is 85% (or 5% max and 20% sorb)
Max absorb of any element is 20%

There are some class exceptions, like necro can use hotspurs or dwarf+10%(like inferno), Zon and Barb can use dual Ravenfrost if under 310 cold res, c/c sin with above level 1 traps can use any absorb at all, others I can’t remember

I haven’t pvp in a while so these may be outdated rules


I dunno either, I’ll just get both pair. I was going off of this https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67132472

It was the exact same with exile of phoenix and max lr skill so I’m still confused.
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Dec 23 2025 03:49pm
So if you don’t have charge you can use hotspurs but if you do it’s inferno and dwarf?

I’m confused sorry

I’m a smiter was gonna go pro pub and attack everyone now with a spirit shield. So what are the rules for a smiter? That’s the only one I ever heard them say no you can’t.


Smiter - 85fr or 80fr + dwarf

As said before the below can use hots or 85fr + dwarf

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This post was edited by parker84 on Dec 23 2025 03:50pm
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Used to be gm with hots.
- Es sorc had rules of zero absorb(except nw) and max 80res.
- Assa was max 80 res if cc
- Max 350 + 1 raven, or no stack + 2 raven or max res only vs cold if i remember correct.

But some have rules for barb and paladins not use more than 85.
But most used 90, split rule there.
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infernostride only then. Need the gold find anyways.
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Dec 23 2025 08:08pm
How did these rules apply?

From players that couldn't HANDLE THE JANDAL?

I mean, if the items exist, you use those items, if the skill table exist you use the skill table, if the runewords exist, you use them, if the cube recipe exists you use them... so who are the people that RESTRICT all of the ABOVE???

Yup... players that don't have a clue... I mean, restricting Potions... WTF, if you are in PvM there are NO RESTRICTIONS... so a wannabe PvP player wants to be superior making rules.

Guess what... all of you guys forgot about PK, after that came PPK'ers and then turn it into a contest... PK'ers joined games and killed people for Ears to show their worth, however, they joined Public games (PvM) just to kill them off and the dead would arise and try to get their gear etc and die Naked... the ears accumulated and then came about the PKK'ers that hunted down PK'ers and getting their Ear and Gold exchanges happened more offten... and now you all call it PvP. What a Joke.
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Dec 24 2025 09:48am
Used to be gm with hots.
- Es sorc had rules of zero absorb(except nw) and max 80res.
- Assa was max 80 res if cc
- Max 350 + 1 raven, or no stack + 2 raven or max res only vs cold if i remember correct.

But some have rules for barb and paladins not use more than 85.
But most used 90, split rule there.


Barb and smite can still beat ex sorc with 85fr np tbh

I think the biggest issue on gm dueling was the amount of cold resist that is gm with 1 Raven. A lot say different

I use no more than 400cr + Raven tbh
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