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is cbf needed? basically would u take 31dr + cbf or 39dr and no cbf

with bb also would be 36dr + cbf vs 44dr no cbf

i see cbf has benefit vs strafe to run spear/spirit however i think only lame bow use this right?

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I would have cnbf incase enemy nr2 starts attacking you as well.

Sometimes you want to sidewalk fury etc, i would do the 36% DR bug belt.
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Dec 18 2025 02:26pm
Why not ber ber circ 16, bb 20, eni 8 = 44dr
You still have enough fcr to use a raven:
white 20, sop 35, circ 20, amu 20, to 20, ring 10 = 125fcr
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Why not ber ber circ 16, bb 20, eni 8 = 44dr
You still have enough fcr to use a raven:
white 20, sop 35, circ 20, amu 20, to 20, ring 10 = 125fcr


I love natures too much on nec for oak mate. I actually use Cham/ber atm and don’t have issue tbh was just wondering by what others go. I find ber/ber more useful vs baba though
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I love natures too much on nec for oak mate. I actually use Cham/ber atm and don’t have issue tbh was just wondering by what others go. I find ber/ber more useful vs baba though


But oak gets deleted really easy by multi.
You can always use cham ber coa + hoto, works well, since ama have low life, you don't need your damage to be so high as in other duels, to put them in fhr.
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I love natures too much on nec for oak mate. I actually use Cham/ber atm and don’t have issue tbh was just wondering by what others go. I find ber/ber more useful vs baba though


Never understood why people love nature peace so much when WISP exist.

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4k to 10k bolt damage is what you can excspect from lightning bolt.

But oak gets deleted really easy by multi.
You can always use cham ber coa + hoto, works well, since ama have low life, you don't need your damage to be so high as in other duels, to put them in fhr.


Oak is very important, and you learn how to avoid multi. But jumping in on ama spamming GA without a oak is way riskier. Oak and golem will help a lot.
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