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Nov 5 2025 06:26am

Technical question for my telezealer

I can break golem slow using EBOTD berserker axe when I have 20% ias gloves, 20% highlords, and fanaticism on. I am wondering if I can get away with a single 15% ias jewel instead of the ias gloves, or will I have to do 2 ias jewels.

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Technical question for my telezealer

I can break golem slow using EBOTD berserker axe when I have 20% ias gloves, 20% highlords, and fanaticism on. I am wondering if I can get away with a single 15% ias jewel instead of the ias gloves, or will I have to do 2 ias jewels.


Smite, Charge vs them.
Golem is capped at 50% slow.

99 ias = (5)+10 vs this type of slow.
133 ias is next break (5)+9, so no ur ias jewels will not help as you would miss 3 ias.

There are also locations to tele to which makes ur first 3-4 hit only be on necro. There is a huge chance of beeing slowed though, although u can abuse the fact that charge attackspeed wont be slowed.
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Nov 5 2025 01:01pm
Smite, Charge vs them.
Golem is capped at 50% slow.

99 ias = (5)+10 vs this type of slow.
133 ias is next break (5)+9, so no ur ias jewels will not help as you would miss 3 ias.

There are also locations to tele to which makes ur first 3-4 hit only be on necro. There is a huge chance of beeing slowed though, although u can abuse the fact that charge attackspeed wont be slowed.


I am asking specifically about zeal. I am able to kill in 2 stomps with zeal with the setup I mentioned in first post: EBOTDZ, 20%ias gloves and 20% ias amulet. I am asking if losing 5%ias by swapping the ias gloves for circ with 15%ias jewel will still break the slow or not
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I am asking specifically about zeal. I am able to kill in 2 stomps with zeal with the setup I mentioned in first post: EBOTDZ, 20%ias gloves and 20% ias amulet. I am asking if losing 5%ias by swapping the ias gloves for circ with 15%ias jewel will still break the slow or not


Use this:
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/
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Nov 5 2025 10:43pm
If you have lvl 27 to 35 fana, there is no difference between the 100ias you get from botd + gloves + HL
Against 50% slow you are at (5)+10 frames zeal, no matter if you add 1 or 2 ias jewels, because you would need 133% total ias

At lvl 36+ fana, having 2 ias jewels would result in the next bp (5)+9
This is only 1 frame faster for the last attack
Really not worth it imo

But I understand your question... if you want to swap your 20ias gloves for a circ with 15ias, that 5ias loss will drastically slow your zeal by dropping to (6)+10, 1 slower frame for each 4 first hits, unless you have lvl 36+ fana
If you can't reach lvl 36+, then you still need 100 ias instead of 95
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If you have lvl 27 to 35 fana, there is no difference between the 100ias you get from botd + gloves + HL
Against 50% slow you are at (5)+10 frames zeal, no matter if you add 1 or 2 ias jewels, because you would need 133% total ias

At lvl 36+ fana, having 2 ias jewels would result in the next bp (5)+9
This is only 1 frame faster for the last attack
Really not worth it imo

But I understand your question... if you want to swap your 20ias gloves for a circ with 15ias, that 5ias loss will drastically slow your zeal by dropping to (6)+10, 1 slower frame for each 4 first hits, unless you have lvl 36+ fana
If you can't reach lvl 36+, then you still need 100 ias instead of 95


I tried to tell him this too :P
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Nov 6 2025 05:36am
If you have lvl 27 to 35 fana, there is no difference between the 100ias you get from botd + gloves + HL
Against 50% slow you are at (5)+10 frames zeal, no matter if you add 1 or 2 ias jewels, because you would need 133% total ias

At lvl 36+ fana, having 2 ias jewels would result in the next bp (5)+9
This is only 1 frame faster for the last attack
Really not worth it imo

But I understand your question... if you want to swap your 20ias gloves for a circ with 15ias, that 5ias loss will drastically slow your zeal by dropping to (6)+10, 1 slower frame for each 4 first hits, unless you have lvl 36+ fana
If you can't reach lvl 36+, then you still need 100 ias instead of 95


Ok so if I'm reading this right, I am still actually losing a frame with ias gloves, ammy and ebotd (100 ias) when I'm getting golemed. The (5)+8 is still fast enough to land hits on the stomp though, which is what I'm trying to maintain. Agreed that next bp makes no sense. Thus, the 5ias loss is unacceptable and I would need 2x 15ias jeweled circ or bfist + 1 jewel circ.

I tried to tell him this too :P


Appreciate the effort brother, but Sins was crystal clear

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Nov 6 2025 06:15am
Ok so if I'm reading this right, I am still actually losing a frame with ias gloves, ammy and ebotd (100 ias) when I'm getting golemed. The (5)+8 is still fast enough to land hits on the stomp though, which is what I'm trying to maintain. Agreed that next bp makes no sense. Thus, the 5ias loss is unacceptable and I would need 2x 15ias jeweled circ or bfist + 1 jewel circ.



Appreciate the effort brother, but Sins was crystal clear


Yes, ur losing a frame, but its the least relevant frame.

(5)+9 down to 5+(10)
Because you have 100 now, and will drop down to 95, meanwhile 99 is breakpoint.

(5)+9 means: 5/5/5/5/9. So the last attack will have to finnish the enitre animation and is therefore slower.
It takes 5 frames to excecute attack 1, additonally 5 frame for next, etc. meanwhile on the last the paladin needs to put his wepon back to neutral position before he starts swinging it again.
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Yes, ur losing a frame, but its the least relevant frame.

(5)+9 down to 5+(10)
Because you have 100 now, and will drop down to 95, meanwhile 99 is breakpoint.

(5)+9 means: 5/5/5/5/9. So the last attack will have to finnish the enitre animation and is therefore slower.
It takes 5 frames to excecute attack 1, additonally 5 frame for next, etc. meanwhile on the last the paladin needs to put his wepon back to neutral position before he starts swinging it again.


Brother, not sure what point you're trying make anymore. I had a specific question regarding gear that has now been answered. In practice, the 133 works well v nec, so I just need to maintain that. I am trying to play with other gear options that may provide more life fhr fcr etc
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Brother, not sure what point you're trying make anymore. I had a specific question regarding gear that has now been answered. In practice, the 133 works well v nec, so I just need to maintain that. I am trying to play with other gear options that may provide more life fhr fcr etc


Well like I said, going from (5)+10 to (5)+9 is only saving 1 frame at the end of zeal.

You want to make sure that this 50% slow is not gonna make your 4 first attacks slower, the last one is the least relevant.
At (6)+10 you attack 3.68 times per sec -> this is what you don't want
At (5)+10 you attack 4.17 times per sec -> I would aim for this
At (5)+9 you attack 4.31 times per sec -> very slight increase where you probably lose more effective hp than you gain effect dmg

If you are looking to get more life, aim for lvl 27+ fana and 100ias (99 bp), which will maintain (5)+10
60ias from botd
20ias from (ideally) crafted blood gloves -> CB dmg goes through bone armor. Something like 10%CB/20ias/15dex/15str would be awesome
Then you need 20ias from either HL (best offensive option) or from 2x ias jewels in circ (allowing for more fcr/life total)

If you really want 133ias, you'll sacrifice a lot elsewhere... You would need to add something like 10ias belt, or 3x ias jewel circ... I can't see any scenario where it's worth it. It's only 1/5th of a frame faster per attack overall, but worse than this in practice, because the necro might already be out of your range when you swing for your last attack.
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