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Nov 4 2025 09:12am
Currently 65fcr but tele is so slow compared to 105fcr nova.
Does 102fcr lose a lot of damage or does it even matter?
Which do you prefer for solo or P8?
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Nov 4 2025 10:00am
102 feels far better, because you are always short of time.
I use 102 on p8 games and 65 on p1 games so i have more mf.
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Nov 4 2025 11:58am
Most builds end up with either
102fcr and 8 frames last dtalon kick
Or
65fcr and 7 frames last dtalon kick

On average you tele just about as much as you attack.
Both save 1 frame on half their actions and lose 1 frame on the other half.

Having 1 frame tele is generally considered better, for the ease of keeping charges up in case you end up, for example, at a dead end in tombs, making it faster to go back to another pack of mobs.
But the overall clear time is very close (yet a bit in favor of 102fcr).

The ultimate mosaic build is to get 102fcr AND 7 frames last kick.
The only way to achieve that is to get enough res from gear/inv to reach max res without fade. This allows you to use BoS instead, for 1 frame faster attacks as well as bonus FRW for faster town travel (and the few times you’ll run while playing).
But such a build is expensive and is only a minor improvement.

You should be more worried about optimizing your number of dtalon kicks versus the amount required to kill most targets.
Each extra unnecessary kick is 3 frames wasted. This is 3 times more critical than the fcr/ias question.

Another more important aspect to consider is to make your big radius dmg as high as possible, while maintaining your single target dps and smaller aoe dps as low as possible. This may just be the single most important factor when trying to optimize your clear speed.
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Nov 4 2025 12:00pm
skip the ai comment above

102 and 65 dmg is basically the same. the only thing you give up with 102 is an easy route to max res without fade

so tldr: 102 is always faster, 65 makes more sense for hc
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Nov 4 2025 12:03pm
102 for sure.
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