ive got bad feedback on this before but the people who gave bad feedback are imo questionable
look basically in a nutshell
players that are 93+ basically only get exp from diablo, the seals sv sc su sm no longer give them good exp, only diablo will give them exp so they basically do that whole chaos run and get
0 from fector 0 from vizor 0 from seis and 30k from diablo
players that are -92 basically 99% of there exp is the opposite, they get all there exp from seals, sv's sc's su's sm's and to them players diablo exp is nothing special at all its like nothing diablo to them is like 1 shotting a special caster along the way,
when you are in groups that are taxi'ing and they are hitting 2-3-4-5 sv's su's sc's along the way and then hitting the seals these players would hardly notice if they were missing 1, 100k out of the 1-2 million they just got (at this level in this math senario 1 run getting 2million would make up for losing 20 runs of mission diablo exp*)
in the old days there was a rule the lowest level had to leave the party at diablo or no one got exp. " 8 " " fill "
what they should have done though is made the rule so that anyone who is not level 93 should leave the party this just makes sooooo much sense to me
so i suggest that anyone under level 93 should leave the party at diablo and allow only the 93+ characters to get diablo exp, as they need it alot, and the people under 93 dont really need it at all and in addition to that
the amount of exp lost from characters under 93 is very very minimal compared to the amount of exp gained by the 93+ characters meaning, that for example a group of 80-90 characters unparting at diablo for a level 93
isnt going to add but maybe a few extra runs for them over their characters life time but the level 93? the level 93, is gaining ALOT you unparting for that 93+ is cutting the amount of runs he needs to do down by alot!
its like you are giving up a very little, to help someone alot
in addition to that id like to point more things out, alot of them players are not even going to 93, most people make characters that are under level 93, for example most my pvp chars and most people really only level most chars to 90 or so for a player who isnt even going to 93 to be using diablos exp is wild to me, there is no reason why a person making an enchant sorceress trying to get to 67 should be sucking the exp out of diablo or really anyone under 93! for that fact
i played alittle hardcore last season and i want to tell you about something i saw... mind you at level 93 you still get a little exp from seals, u could seal it but it would take a long time 94+ is when its even worse but anyways i want to tell you what i saw, so when you get to level 93-94 people split-chaos runs ok? split seal 1 vizor 1 seis 1 fector this is good exp, if you are level 93+! so the thing about this was there was only 1 level 93 there and everyone else was under like 90, and they had a level 90 on seis getting 0 exp for hours
my point here is this is EXTREMELY inefficent thats the worst thing they could have did because i saw this go on for hours and for hours those 7 players that were under level 93 barely got any exp sure the 93 did great, and at the end of the day maybe it was friends just helping him out right? nothing wrong with that but the thing is... as a group they are all much better off just doing a normal, slower taxi'd chaos where they are group farming, and hitting sv's su's sc's sm's etc going alittle slower, and then when they get to diablo, simply leaving the party and only letting the 93+ get exp, in this senario all 8 of them would have been power leveling.(if you have all the required killers it also helps everyone if the 93 actually leaches and searches for an exp shrine not only does he level alot faster but so do the other players, but not always possible if you dont have the required/safe/killers/teli's/etc) example, the 93 may be the only din.)
next... lets talk about how dead classic is and private games not sure why im even posting this considering classic is DAF but....... this sort of rule is overall better for everyone imo
most people chaos in private games 1/7 so they can get GG exp from diablo playing in public games takes tooo long exp is to low...... they want more exp faster, well i also think this sort of rule could maybe bring players out of private games alittle more aswell cause why load 7+ for diablo exp when you have a community helping you out with exp?
in addition to that, i also feel like this sort change would see a spike in the amount of 93+ characters we normally see, as this method would cut the leveling time significantly
also another thought while you might not always be able to do what im about to mention next but... so another thing is that if there is a really good chaos going and you have enough killers at that point the 93+ level characters can stay away from the 1-92 characters experiance to help them get more exp also ( or solo seis ) which is also a big help for the 1-92's this does sort of take alittle knowing of whats going on to pull off but it makes sense and
if you had a group of multiple 93+'s or like half and half you could basically have lets say 3-4 93's+ staying away from the seal-exp this way the -92's get 4/8 during sv su sc su etc or in lamens terms if your level 97 you dont need to be absorbing fectors exp from the lower levels, all of this adds up alot and its just that
low levels shouldnt absorb diablos exp.
high levels shouldnt absorb seals exp.
you know how long it takes to get from 93-94? with this sort of unparty at diablo rule 93-94 would be able to be accomplished ALOT quicker in a fraction of the time! and leveling from 1-92 wouldnt take much longer at all
this is for like a non-split method i think and should just be the standard of a normal chaos run where all you gotta do is leave party at diablo if ur under level 93
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This post was edited by Jvun7 on Jan 11 2025 05:46am
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