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is there a guide to play both skills?
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frostsphere?
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Dec 12 2024 04:31am
Quote (gel87 @ 12 Dec 2024 11:28)
frostsphere?


frost orb sorry
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Dec 12 2024 04:51am
I would not run both.

Choose which one you want :)
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Dec 12 2024 07:09am
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 12 2024 06:51am)
I would not run both.

Choose which one you want :)

Think it’s viable on d2r now that the cd isn’t shared. has a pvm build. Not sure what they run for pvp but most blizz sorcs mix in frozen orb now although I’m not sure how much they prioritize dmg on it
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Blizz/orb is the best pvm cold sorc build, but only once you have all the required high end gear.
You need a lot of -res on gear, which allows you to max both blizz and orb and all their synergies.
Only 1 pt in CM (up to 4-6 at lvl 99)

1) now that they don’t share the same delay, you can cast both in alternance.
2) CM and infinity work only at 1/5 effectiveness against sundered enemies. -res from gear works at 100%. This build maximize -res on gear so you still bring all non-immunes to the capped -100res, while having better cold penetration against immunes than the standard builds.

Here’s the full build :
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/mq6sa0p8

But like I said, until you have at least -100 cold pen from gear, play pure blizz with maxed CM.

thanks for the shout-out
This is purely a pvm build.
Orb sucks at pvp and CM works at 100% in pvp so a pure blizz build is obviously much better if pvp is the goal

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Dec 12 2024 08:09am
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Quote (Void511 @ Dec 12 2024 02:09pm)
Think it’s viable on d2r now that the cd isn’t shared. ^sinsofthesun has a pvm build. Not sure what they run for pvp but most blizz sorcs mix in frozen orb now although I’m not sure how much they prioritize dmg on it


My first cold sorc had lvl 1 orb in pvp, my second did not waste that point^^
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Quote (gel87 @ 12 Dec 2024 11:51)
I would not run both.

Choose which one you want :)


why not? they no longer share diminishing return, you can cast them taking turns

i think its for pvm

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Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Dec 12 2024 10:05am)
Blizz/orb is the best pvm cold sorc build, but only once you have all the required high end gear.
You need a lot of -res on gear, which allows you to max both blizz and orb and all their synergies.
Only 1 pt in CM (up to 4-6 at lvl 99)

1) now that they don’t share the same delay, you can cast both in alternance.
2) CM and infinity work only at 1/5 effectiveness against sundered enemies. -res from gear works at 100%. This build maximize -res on gear so you still bring all non-immunes to the capped -100res, while having better cold penetration against immunes than the standard builds.

Here’s the full build :
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/mq6sa0p8

But like I said, until you have at least -100 cold pen from gear, play pure blizz with maxed CM.

^Void511 thanks for the shout-out
This is purely a pvm build.
Orb sucks at pvp and CM works at 100% in pvp so a pure blizz build is obviously much better if pvp is the goal


Most people will cold stack enough to make CM irrelevant so I think some people use both. In pub duels most people aren’t going to bother stacking so u might as well go for cheesy 1 shots I guess. I think most people at least go 1 point into orb for chip dmg/clear summons on blizz sorcs now though. Again just not sure how they prioritize orb vs mastery. Probably more mastery for pubs and certain rulesets and orb for tourneys
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Quote (Void511 @ Dec 12 2024 09:35am)
Most people will cold stack enough to make CM irrelevant so I think some people use both. In pub duels most people aren’t going to bother stacking so u might as well go for cheesy 1 shots I guess. I think most people at least go 1 point into orb for chip dmg/clear summons on blizz sorcs now though. Again just not sure how they prioritize orb vs mastery. Probably more mastery for pubs and certain rulesets and orb for tourneys


Yeah for pvp its mostly a 1 point wonder.
Skellies and wolves will die to it, just not the bear.
But against players, any spells that apply multiple small chip dmg is way too easy to counter with just a bit of flat mdr.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Dec 12 2024 08:48am
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