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Oct 22 2024 07:52pm
Am shopping for a GG Insight merc weapon right now and I noticed most listings are in Eth Greater Poleaxes.

I thought the Giant Thresher was considered a superior base for Polearm only runewords?

It attacks faster and swaps 6 min damage for 13 max dmg.

Is it because the GPs are more common in ethereal?
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Oct 22 2024 08:38pm
It has 4 range
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Oct 22 2024 11:40pm
Quote (ghostshadow @ Oct 23 2024 05:38am)
It has 4 range


Iirc a2 merc is always the same range.

Quote (AzylaSol @ Oct 23 2024 04:52am)
Am shopping for a GG Insight merc weapon right now and I noticed most listings are in Eth Greater Poleaxes.

I thought the Giant Thresher was considered a superior base for Polearm only runewords?

It attacks faster and swaps 6 min damage for 13 max dmg.

Is it because the GPs are more common in ethereal?


Ignorance of the basics makes people make stupid decisions..

Just use Thresher / Giant Thresher
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Oct 23 2024 12:11am
GPA has higher avg dmg than T/GT, so if you dont hit any new IAS BPs with T/GT, then GPA is better
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Oct 24 2024 09:07am
Insight is mostly used on es nova sorc.
The build is insight + cure + coh
No ias
Without ias, both GT and GPA will have jab hit at frame 5 and 9.
So GPA is basically free bonus dmg.

You can easily compare all stats by just swapping around all possible combos on maxroll’s planner.
Set the target and player count to whatever you want.
The dps shown also includes the average CB dmg (if any) based on the chosen target.

GPA always wins for insight merc without ias.
GPA is also the best base for infinity on a fishymancer that is using beast.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Oct 24 2024 09:09am
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Oct 26 2024 10:02am
Requirements
Higher average damage
Both has +4 range, and merc has same range anyway.

Gtresher = better wsm
Gpa = better damage

Depends what you need.
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Quote (gel87 @ Oct 26 2024 12:02pm)
Requirements
Higher average damage
Both has +4 range, and merc has same range anyway.

Gtresher = better wsm
Gpa = better damage

Depends what you need.


What is wsm?
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Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Oct 24 2024 11:07am)
Insight is mostly used on es nova sorc.
The build is insight + cure + coh
No ias
Without ias, both GT and GPA will have jab hit at frame 5 and 9.
So GPA is basically free bonus dmg.

You can easily compare all stats by just swapping around all possible combos on maxroll’s planner.
Set the target and player count to whatever you want.
The dps shown also includes the average CB dmg (if any) based on the chosen target.

GPA always wins for insight merc without ias.
GPA is also the best base for infinity on a fishymancer that is using beast.


Wow, mind blown, didn't think about that at all. Thank you sir
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Quote (AzylaSol @ Oct 27 2024 03:00am)
What is wsm?


WSM is the best speed of wepon.
Its not displayed ingame.

The lower wsm the better.
Giant tresher = -10
Great Polaxe = 0

The real attackspeed is usually been calculated like this, but there are exceptions:
floor(120*ias/(120+ias)+SkillIas-WSM-SLOW) = EIAS (effective increased attack speed)
Ur fpa is usually calculated like this:
FPA = Ceiling(BaseFrame*256/floor(AnimSpeed*(100+EIAS)/100))

Jab is a sequence attack with 30WSM penalty. Meaning ur WSM is 30 higher than ur wep. So a GT will end up with +20wsm, and a GP will end up with +30wsm.

Animation speed in d2r is 256 for all except Assassin hitting with claws(207), Vampire form Trang nec (176)

JAB baseframe is 18 for amazon, 21 for amazon 2 handed wep, dno if its the same for merc.
But if it is, its like this:

EIAS = Floor(120*ias/(120+ias)+SkillIas-WSM-30-SLOW)
FPA =CEILING(21*256/FLOOR(256*(100+EIAS)/100;1);1)/3
Copied from my excel as ;1 and ;1 just refer to which digit i should round to.

Then you take 25/FPA = Attacks per second.

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 28 2024 06:28am
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