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Oct 6 2024 12:18pm
Basically I’m trying to see what the damage output difference would be between 3 diff combos on Amazon:

5.2k Guided Arrow (for example purposes) + 70% Critical strike zon skill with 2/19/20dex amulet:

5k Guided Arrow + 70% Critical strike with Highlords (accounting for deadly strike at lvl 95):

4.6k Guided Arrow + 70% Critical strike with Gore Rider (accounting for deadly strike or crushing blow):

Any math geniuses able to help? Maybe ? ^_^

Thanks!

This post was edited by ceejay3 on Oct 6 2024 03:29pm
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I've tried them all, and the best damage combination i found was war travs + atmas scarab. Gores might prove better against bosses, but with strafe, or 7fpa guided, amp will trigger eventually, thus the extra damage from war travs gets quadrupled, outperforming gores.

But i haven't done the maths. Just personal experience.
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Quote (Taurean @ Oct 6 2024 02:44pm)
I've tried them all, and the best damage combination i found was war travs + atmas scarab. Gores might prove better against bosses, but with strafe, or 7fpa guided, amp will trigger eventually, thus the extra damage from war travs gets quadrupled, outperforming gores.

But i haven't done the maths. Just personal experience.


clarification: this is for pvp, consider the atmas like bm. so its really me weighing Gores vs Highlords vs crafted 2 zon /19fcr/ dex amulet for pvp telebowa zon


This post was edited by ceejay3 on Oct 6 2024 02:14pm
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Oct 6 2024 02:58pm
chance for double dmg = 1 - (1-MCS)*(1-CS)*(1-DS)
MCS is mastery crit (only relevant for barb/assa, thus in your case MCS=0)

i dont understand the numbers in your post though. 70% chance for double dmg is 70%, no matter how it is generated...
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Oct 6 2024 04:58pm)
chance for double dmg = 1 - (1-MCS)*(1-CS)*(1-DS)
MCS is mastery crit (only relevant for barb/assa, thus in your case MCS=0)

i dont understand the numbers in your post though. 70% chance for double dmg is 70%, no matter how it is generated...


Trying to figure out which combo does more dmg
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Quote (ceejay3 @ Oct 6 2024 11:03pm)
Trying to figure out which combo does more dmg


your first two are obviously identical, same base dmg and same chance to double. third option has same chance to double and lower base dmg, so total dmg will obviously be lower
i am pretty sure i dont understand the numbers you posted bc that question is almost too easy. what am i missing?
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Oct 6 2024 05:06pm)
your first two are obviously identical, same base dmg and same chance to double. third option has same chance to double and lower base dmg, so total dmg will obviously be lower
i am pretty sure i dont understand the numbers you posted bc that question is almost too easy. what am i missing?


Trying to decide if Highlords is worth sacrificing an fcr frame and using over 2/19fcr/dex amulet on telebowazon.

Updated dmg values

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Quote (ceejay3 @ Oct 6 2024 11:29pm)
Trying to decide if Highlords is worth sacrificing an fcr frame and using over 2/19fcr/dex amulet on telebowazon.

Updated dmg values


yeah i understand that part and now i finally get the numbers as well: you assume 70 CS and additional DS from items, right? in this case:
5.2k * (1+0.7) = 8.84k
5k * (1+0.805) = 9.03k
4.6k * (1+0.745) = 8.03k
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Oct 7 2024 12:38am)
yeah i understand that part and now i finally get the numbers as well: you assume 70 CS and additional DS from items, right? in this case:
5.2k * (1+0.7) = 8.84k
5k * (1+0.805) = 9.03k
4.6k * (1+0.745) = 8.03k


Okay thank you, I appreciate it! Was basically trying to see if it was worth it to sacrifice fcr bp for Highlords. The difference seems marginal, so I’ll stick with my crafted amulets unless I don’t need the fcr, thanks!
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Oct 7 2024 06:38am)
yeah i understand that part and now i finally get the numbers as well: you assume 70 CS and additional DS from items, right? in this case:
5.2k * (1+0.7) = 8.84k
5k * (1+0.805) = 9.03k
4.6k * (1+0.745) = 8.03k


fuckin math wizard back at it again eh? I wonder what our lord and savior - jesus christ, that is - thinks about your numbers' black magic

better sprinkle some holy water on that big head of yours before it's too late
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