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Jun 5 2024 04:56pm
trying to help a friend do some math when it comes to imbue / cube skull rerolling of a necro head.



affix calculator shows ilvl52 minimum required, but alvl99 (i think because it needs alvl99 for +3 bone spirit)
trying to figure out the clvl/ilvl to cubesoj reroll a nec head where ~~ ilvl = int(.66 * clvl) + int(.66 * ilvl)
I just can't seem to figure out how the alvl99 for +Bone Spirit factors in...
Would rerolling for a ilvl52 output give me what i need?

can anyone please help me understand how the skill staffmods relate to alvl when it comes to rerolling in cube?

i've done quite a bit of googling, so now i'm asking for jsp's help :p
i'm pretty sure it's something simple im missing or overlooking honestly....

i appreciate your help, thank you! :hug:
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Jun 5 2024 05:02pm
Quote (NeXmetal @ Jun 6 2024 12:56am)
can anyone please help me understand how the skill staffmods relate to alvl when it comes to rerolling in cube?


Easy, they do not relate at all, staff mods only ask for some ilvl restrictions (and they can't be more than 4 tiers away from other staffmod), if you want Bone Spirit you need to have ilvl >36 on the item and that it.

The higher the ilvl also the higher your chances to get the 3 staffmods from imbuing.

It would be easier if you just tell us what mods do you want and what base are you going to use, both things will change the results, for what I get from that picture is that you will get alvl99 on that item, not that you need alvl99.
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Jun 5 2024 05:10pm
Quote (Titus1986 @ Jun 5 2024 07:02pm)
Easy, they do not relate at all, staff mods only ask for some ilvl restrictions (and they can't be more than 4 tiers away from other staffmod), if you want Bone Spirit you need to have ilvl >36 on the item and that it.

The higher the ilvl also the higher your chances to get the 3 staffmods from imbuing.

It would be easier if you just tell us what mods do you want and what base are you going to use, both things will change the results, for what I get from that picture is that you will get alvl99 on that item, not that you need alvl99.


Lld demonhead 2pnb 3spear 3spirit deflecting
(Does not need 3rd staffmod)

Planning to imbue one to get a definite ilvl, cube soj reroll with specific clvl to get ilvl52 output, then (if my math is right) should be able to constantly soj skull reroll on clvl27 to get ilvl52 output repeatedly through (0.66clvl(27))[=18] + (0.66ilvl(52))[=34] = ilvl 52 output

So from what youre saying, its just that its a alvl99 staffmod, but does not relate to the math behind rerolling... correct?
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Jun 5 2024 05:26pm
So, let's put everything together

+2 pnb ask for alvl40
of deflecting ask for alvl11
I'm going to guess you want 2 sockets but you can get that also with a low alvl

Also you want +3 spear +3 spirit, spear ask for ilvl > 18 and spirit ilvl >36, so you are going to want at least ilvl37 or higher.

Demon Head has a qlvl of 24, to get an alvl of 40 (for +2 pnb) with that qlvl you need at least ilvl52 (this is where you get that ilvl from the calculator, still not sure what that alvl99 is, you will have alvl40, just enough to get +2pnb and all the other things you want and avoid things that you may not want)

Now, a few things, the reroll formula always round out down and do the round out for both parts, so with clvl27 you will get 17+34 for a total of ilvl51, not enough to get what you want, just go to lvl28 so you get 18+34 to reach ilvl52 all the time.

You can also Imbue with a clvl48 to get a ilvl52 Demon Head and reroll with 6 P.Skulls with a clvl80, to get 52*0.4 + 80*0.4 -> 20-32 = 52 also ilvl52 items with P.Skulls instead of rerolling with SoJ.
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Jun 5 2024 05:45pm
Quote (Titus1986 @ Jun 5 2024 07:26pm)
So, let's put everything together

+2 pnb ask for alvl40
of deflecting ask for alvl11
I'm going to guess you want 2 sockets but you can get that also with a low alvl

Also you want +3 spear +3 spirit, spear ask for ilvl > 18 and spirit ilvl >36, so you are going to want at least ilvl37 or higher.

Demon Head has a qlvl of 24, to get an alvl of 40 (for +2 pnb) with that qlvl you need at least ilvl52 (this is where you get that ilvl from the calculator, still not sure what that alvl99 is, you will have alvl40, just enough to get +2pnb and all the other things you want and avoid things that you may not want)

Now, a few things, the reroll formula always round out down and do the round out for both parts, so with clvl27 you will get 17+34 for a total of ilvl51, not enough to get what you want, just go to lvl28 so you get 18+34 to reach ilvl52 all the time.

You can also Imbue with a clvl48 to get a ilvl52 Demon Head and reroll with 6 P.Skulls with a clvl80, to get 52*0.4 + 80*0.4 -> 20-32 = 52 also ilvl52 items with P.Skulls instead of rerolling with SoJ.


Well yeah the alvl is what confused me. From what i can tell alvl has to do with the staffmod being in bracket6 🤷‍♂️ thats what tripped me up lol. I think i may have just tried looking into it too deeply and gotten mixed up. Unless the alvl99 there is a glitch/error, then hey thanks to that calc for giving me a long headache 😅

* and i agree with your maths, except for the clvl27 / clvl28 bit. Why wouldnt clvl27 work? I did round down on my math there as well. 27/3=9 9x2=18 18+34=52


I didnt even think about trying to do it with just pskull formula, my buddy said he was doing the soj skull reroll so i just math'd based on what he said he wanted to do lol
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Jun 5 2024 05:47pm
Oh, it's literally 0.66 not 2/3, so it's 27*0.66 = 17.82 rounded to 17.
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