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Jan 7 2024 07:51pm
I know this build doesnt exist for a reason but
Did anyone ever try an es sorc with damage taken goes to mana build?
Maybe a naj armor, howltusk, crafted amulet with some nice % etc
Just really curious if anyone ever thought about it
And actually came up with a build
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Jan 8 2024 01:50am
people did test that and it is not used for a reason: dgtm is calculated for the final dmg you take!

example:
you have 95 ES, 75 fr, 10 dgtm and get hit by an 18k fireball.
dmg reduction due to pvp penalty: 3060 dmg remain
ES: 2907 mana dmg (remember this number), 153 life dmg
resist: 38 life dmg remain
dgtm: 3 mana get restored
so you lose 2907 mana and get 3 mana back. that is about 0.1%

not worth it by a long shot

afaik dgtm is only used by LLD builds (since they have small mana pools and cant regenerate fast enough otherways and some HLD melee types like bvb), but correct me if i am wrong here
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Jan 8 2024 04:50pm)
people did test that and it is not used for a reason: dgtm is calculated for the final dmg you take!

example:
you have 95 ES, 75 fr, 10 dgtm and get hit by an 18k fireball.
dmg reduction due to pvp penalty: 3060 dmg remain
ES: 2907 mana dmg (remember this number), 153 life dmg
resist: 38 life dmg remain
dgtm: 3 mana get restored
so you lose 2907 mana and get 3 mana back. that is about 0.1%

not worth it by a long shot

afaik dgtm is only used by LLD builds (since they have small mana pools and cant regenerate fast enough otherways and some HLD melee types like bvb), but correct me if i am wrong here


Had trouble understanding
I got it now
I was delusional thinking this build could be extremely tanky
With less dmg
Oh boy was i wrong :rofl:
Theres always a reason certain builds arent popular
Thanks for the explanation in detail!
Appreciated
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Jan 8 2024 02:37am
Quote (Lazybumi @ Jan 8 2024 02:22am)
Had trouble understanding
I got it now
I was delusional thinking this build could be extremely tanky
With less dmg
Oh boy was i wrong :rofl:
Theres always a reason certain builds arent popular
Thanks for the explanation in detail!
Appreciated


The real reason is thinking that dtgm is like having an energy shield type of effect

Which it does not, having 12% es on every char but sorc would be nice perhaps
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Jan 8 2024 02:52am
Quote (Haseo @ Jan 8 2024 05:37pm)
The real reason is thinking that dtgm is like having an energy shield type of effect

Which it does not, having 12% es on every char but sorc would be nice perhaps


yup that was my thought and i was proven wrong :D
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Jan 8 2024 03:52am
https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Energy_Shield

There you have a nice explanation an a table to see how much DGtM you need to cover your ES shield, unless you have a really low ES tho, you can't get that much DGtM.
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Quote (Titus1986 @ Jan 8 2024 06:52pm)
https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Energy_Shield

There you have a nice explanation an a table to see how much DGtM you need to cover your ES shield, unless you have a really low ES tho, you can't get that much DGtM.


sweet
ill take a look after work
thanks!
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Jan 8 2024 07:31am
dgtm gives u mana back when hit. its not that the dmg goes to mana instead of life
the stat is useless on essorcs
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Jan 8 2024 05:56pm
Quote (paweljonk @ Jan 8 2024 10:31pm)
dgtm gives u mana back when hit. its not that the dmg goes to mana instead of life
the stat is useless on essorcs


I actually studied it/ tested it with my es sorc yesterday
It is indeed useless
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