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Dec 12 2023 03:29pm
hey,

i love to play barb - but - its really "annoying", that hes not able for clearing P6-P8 TZ96 areas, single, with a decent killspead.

tried a berserk/ww barb with BiS-Gear (dual grief and so on, only some max/ar/life charms) but it was kind of frustrating...

Is there any chance / idea to make him work in the mentioned areas?

Whats about an enchantress as a support? or pride merc?

lmk barb fans :D
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Dec 12 2023 06:34pm
Quote (Khean @ Dec 12 2023 01:29pm)
hey,

i love to play barb - but - its really "annoying", that hes not able for clearing P6-P8 TZ96 areas, single, with a decent killspead.

tried a berserk/ww barb with BiS-Gear (dual grief and so on, only some max/ar/life charms) but it was kind of frustrating...

Is there any chance / idea to make him work in the mentioned areas?

Whats about an enchantress as a support? or pride merc?

lmk barb fans :D


so bis gear= gface highlords gores loh? cb and ds are your friends. if you are doing cows don't use loh. use blood gloves if you need ias drac or rends if not. you could wear a fort. you could go more into str. if that don't work you could 2 hand a big edeath sword. the 5 frame bp is fine. try for 100% ds and cb. it is a barb not a hammerdin there is only so much you can do.
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Dec 13 2023 04:18am
Double throw is best for high density areas and zerker is best for elite pack sniping. Overall I find zerker to be a bit funner to play has better survivability in addition throw barb is expensive to make good and getting the right amount of ias can be a bit complicated since you have numerous throwing weapon bases and ways to get ias in the build. Even frenzy is better than ww

Barbs suck for pvm - ww in particular is garbage.

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Dec 13 2023 05:08am
thanks for your feedback!

Whats about the enchantress as support? doesnt make it a ww barb more efficient?
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Dec 13 2023 11:49am
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thanks for your feedback!

Whats about the enchantress as support? doesnt make it a ww barb more efficient?


idk never made one not sure how much damage that would add. the ar wouldn't help much if you use griefs because they have ignore targets defense.
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Dec 13 2023 12:56pm
Do you use curses such as decreap or amp?
Lawbringer, eth reapers merc etc, lacerator?

Here are some setups:
Merc: Lw + lawbringer + arreat cham + duress or forti merc.
Barb Wirl: dual Grief + guillaume + hl + gores + Loh + eni + strings/arach + raven + 10fcr/dual leech/add ring. (Hoto + 3wc/lt offhand).

The idea here is to smack undead easy, some undeads have high or immune status to physical. The aura will put their dr to 0 or smt, and decreap will make them -50%. The aura will also increase ur damage, knockback them and deal magical damage. Lw will add might and sometimes override decreap with lt.
Ur job is to position merc for trigger and aura, and wirl.

You may also go azurewrath + Grief frenzy, and then use eth reapers merc.
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Dec 13 2023 03:24pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 13 2023 07:56pm)
Do you use curses such as decreap or amp?
Lawbringer, eth reapers merc etc, lacerator?

Here are some setups:
Merc: Lw + lawbringer + arreat cham + duress or forti merc.
Barb Wirl: dual Grief + guillaume + hl + gores + Loh + eni + strings/arach + raven + 10fcr/dual leech/add ring. (Hoto + 3wc/lt offhand).

The idea here is to smack undead easy, some undeads have high or immune status to physical. The aura will put their dr to 0 or smt, and decreap will make them -50%. The aura will also increase ur damage, knockback them and deal magical damage. Lw will add might and sometimes override decreap with lt.
Ur job is to position merc for trigger and aura, and wirl.

You may also go azurewrath + Grief frenzy, and then use eth reapers merc.


mh nice setup thanks.

tried exactly this: Barb Wirl: dual Grief + guillaume + hl + gores + Loh + eni + strings/arach + raven + 10fcr/dual leech/add ring. (Hoto + 3wc/lt offhand). :) but not with a lw + lawbringer merc.
I used a might merc act 2 with reapers toll

This post was edited by Khean on Dec 13 2023 03:26pm
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Dec 20 2023 04:40am
hi,

okay, tested the a5 merc with lw + lawbringer. Its nice - but tbh not my because you lose a lot quality of life aspects in comparison to a a2 might merc.

I prefer a2 might merc with

a) insight for "heavy teleport tzs"
b) pride / reaper weapon for tzs like flayer jungle or baals or sth like that

open point: Enchant Sorc :D
i usually play with at least two accounts, so a enchant sory for extra fire dmg + massive AR is really nice, isnt it? I dont see any kind of suggestions in this direction so far so thats why
im a little bit confused.
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Dec 20 2023 06:03am
Quote (Khean @ 20 Dec 2023 10:40)
hi,

okay, tested the a5 merc with lw + lawbringer. Its nice - but tbh not my because you lose a lot quality of life aspects in comparison to a a2 might merc.

I prefer a2 might merc with

a) insight for "heavy teleport tzs"
b) pride / reaper weapon for tzs like flayer jungle or baals or sth like that

open point: Enchant Sorc :D
i usually play with at least two accounts, so a enchant sory for extra fire dmg + massive AR is really nice, isnt it? I dont see any kind of suggestions in this direction so far so thats why
im a little bit confused.


I levelled my Barb to 99 as WW with dual grief, gface etc etc, reaper A2 merc and brand A1 merc and using enchant sorc from a second client. Cleared p5 games kinda quickly, especially TZs with not too many fire immunes. Insight A2 merc is a noob trap, just use mana potions. Reapers A2 merc and Brand A1 merc had roughly equal clearing speeds (Brand has a 35% chance to proc amp damage when struck, so if your merc gets hit you pretty much 1 shot all mobs around her). If you don't have a Brand lying around just go with Reapers toll. Gameplay is easier (you don't have to adapt your merc armor to have as low defense and high DR as possible, and you don't have to change your playstyle to WW out of packs so that the mobs will focus on your merc).
Be sure to adapt your gloves and offhand to the current TZ. LoH if there's lots of demons; Ghoulhide or Gravepalm for undead areas (also swap your offhand Grief to Azurewrath or Lawbringer if there's physical immune undead). Steelrend for animal TZs, though TBH I just skipped those TZs because they're bad anyway. Swapping your gloves matters a LOT. Don't just farm Tombs with LoH, you're leaving free 200% ED and tons of AR against undead to rot.
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Dec 25 2023 03:11pm
I played a while with brand on swap on my barb iso on merc. Was kinda fun, get hit once in pack, swap, whirl to death. Rinse, repeat. Merc with eth reaper I played and is technically better but my playstyle I didn't tele him enough into the packs so he was always lagging behind from where I was.. For that reason I prefer pride or a5 merc.

This post was edited by flapmo on Dec 25 2023 03:11pm
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