Yo.

Back in the days I had a MB fire sorc. That build was epic.
At level 92 I reached 4950mana if precast and like 4,8k if no precast bo.
It had precast gear to get 95% ES as that was GM on eu nl.
Ofc that build used some wierd items like Bug belt etc which exploded the stats. And those 20% DR came in handy.

I took a quick peak at how this thing would turn out in d2r without all the bugs, and with a higher level. It still seems very viable,
but items will be inzanly exspensive i would guess.
4,9k mana / 1,3k life /105fcr / 60fhr / 75% block / 15%DR / 20repl / 75@ / 75plr / 19k damage / 30frw / 28mdr / 72% ES (no precast at all) - oak can be used.
Blaze fixes frw.

Here is main setup, there is a viper cham in stash if need cnbf (whistan got half freeze duration)
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/91nq0rvq

If need more psn stack, u can also add psn related boots, but this one has 250pr and 200plr:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/jv2b20f7

So those assas with venom aint gonna touch that, same with necro etc.. Mana is still at 4k.

The none block version focus more on damage output. Lidless is ofc a free %max mana shield, meanwhile a rare/magic orb can boost FB dmg up to 26k.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/d32bc0fr

Ofc one could ofc have nr1 diadem and ammu str based + eni/coh etc and easy use a spirit monarch for the nb setup, but its easier to just put on a orb or an hoto + lidless.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 28 2023 07:45am

20rep is gm on sorc. oak is bm
u can up whistans m8 for better block%
if u play low es i would go for some dr. its not needed imo
bowa will still rek you.
would focus on as much life as i could and play with 2x gul 2os circ
mana is not important in blocksetup. its life that matters

and ofc u need normal 105setup with spirit.
i reach both on my sorc with 0str/0dex

xd edit fail

pdr/mdr is capped at 10 each

This post was edited by paweljonk on Nov 28 2023 09:28am

Upped whistans need 100str. I had to stat 10 str to get 60str. And the build only needed 36stats to dex to get MB.
So yes, one can use that as an opportunity incase one want to have spirit setups as well. Its a 4 stat difference.

it has 15% dr via strings.

Bowa will not rek it so easy. Bowa carry HL in most cases, it also carries raven. And some even ench.

HL = 1-30 light dmg. So lets say 30(worst case).
30 * 0,17 * 0,25 = 1 damage. We have 28mdr so we will get back 27life as a counter to its physical damage.
Lets take worst case with raven = 45 * 0,17 * 0,25 = 1 damage. We will get 27 life back from MDR overflow here as well.
Faith has fire damage. 120 * 0,17 * 0,25 = 5 damage. We will get back 23 life from MDR overflow.

Lets say ama has 50k physical damage.
5000 * 0,17 * ((100-71)/2) * (1-(15/100)) - 27 - 27 - 23 = 206 life lost each hit.

Mana lost each attack:
5000 * 0,17 * 0,71 * 0,75 = 452 mana per hit.

If full precast its 90% es.

if u wanna play pubs its fine if u wanna play gm their is a reason why their is a mdr/pdr cap on es sorcs xd. if u wanna cheese i would go eth zod gbane and u can afk vs any melee char xd

mdr should be applied before resistances if i'm not mistaken

Its a strict rule lol. Are u sure that aint for precast 95% es sorc?
I mean if i was 95% es with 28mdr i could accept it as a little lame, but reducing life taken from 283 to 206 i dont see that as BM at least xD
Max 10mdr means viper armor is out of the picture(unless antiperf), and so is every 200fcr build, and every build that use something else than eni/coh.

Anyway, played with the thoughts of gbane, and from what i see it will reduce other important stats such as:
Mana, due to loosing 1 soj to maintain fcr break.
@res due to loosing 35@ from viper, however i can get 21 back from perf ring and jool.
I would also have to swap strings with arach. And the diadem would need str instead of plr, and either stat some strenght or swap one stats in the jool's.
All at the cost of getting 20mdr+20dr instead of 28mdr.

And one can't go afk as a sorc^^ I have met several "immortal sorcs" with 5k mana and MDR/DR/95ES setup. 2-3 hammers / 3-4 smites / a nice triwirl or zerk chain / combined with some stuns and they die in 1-4 seconds...
The idea is to not get fucked by a good chain of attacks. Like sorcs getting charged down, dying to a nice wirl combi or chainzerk, dying to a strafe serie or ga mix etc...

Not MDR overflow. MDR overflow is last. I did not even include the initial MDR.

It would be like this:
HL 30 light dmg: 30 * 0,17 - 28 * 0,25
Raven: 45 * 0,17 - 28 * 0,25
Faith fire: 120 * 0,17 - 28 * 0,25

mana is not a problem against any melee char. life +high def matters most. i run 3xxx mana in block and 5300in normal setup and mana is never an issue. biggest problem is high ow
i dont know when u played but iirc full precast was bm on eu around 05/06
yeah u need to use 9mdr viper to run 200fcr xd

On eu NL precast ES on sorc was not BM.
People in pubs reading american rules started to claim oak was bm, precast es was bm, 1 tap item on smiter was bm to them.
Some even thought GM melee tour rules was applicable in pubs lol xD
But the usual tvt/fpk guys used the same rules until end.
ES sorc: max 33 repl, max 5% max res, no sorb, no oak, no mana pot, precast ES allowed. That was the sorc rules. Simple and relevant. "immprtal sorc" was never an issue, drain their mana and GM abs their low damage and they died easy.
Vita sorc: General abs rules, oak allowed, no cap on anything else than general sorb rules.
Litterally every other char: OAK gm.

Yes, you dont need massive mana, my MB es blizz used 3,4k mana, and put on frosts for 4k mana. But ideally u want high mana whenever u can get it. I don't build chars to 1v1, i want it to be optimalized in 1vX and then high mana helps a lot