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Sep 30 2023 03:34pm
So i checked, and with maxroll D2R char planner i made two sorcs, one with selfwield infy, one with merc infy.

Edition Infy,

Infinity
Griffs facet 5/5
Vmagi facet 5/5
Arach
Magefists
1x soj
10fcr ring
Mara
WT

Edition CM:
Crescent moon
SpiritMon
Griffs facet 5/5
Arach
Magefists
2xsoj
Coh
2/20 amulet
WT

Merc:
infy obv

So the numbers:

Dmgs
Edition infy: 8256–10,751
Edition CM: 9906–12,787

DPS:
Edition infy: 29,698
Edition CM: 35,457

Mana with bo
Edition infy: 2534
Edition CM: 2982


Inventory torch+anni+9 skillers for both.

So from what i can see:

CM edition: Has more mana, more dmg, more res. cheaper (i meant you don't need to create an extr self-wield infy in a scythe or sth)

Why everyone is pushing to selfwield infy? I saw it even from youtubers in mancatcher and tresher...Even worst than some low lvl req scythe.

I don't have extra runes for selfwield infy in single player, so i run with my CM sorc and i wanted to know if i should go for another infy..

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Sep 30 2023 03:49pm
The extra 10~20% lightning resist from enemy was a major boost to damage in pvm before the introduction of sunder charms (D2LoD).
Another major point would of been to allow your mercenary to have another damage dealing weapon equipped to deal with lightning immune monsters or have more of a support role other than de-buffing the enemies with conviction.
In Pvm, it really does not matter and allowing yourself to survive easier while still maintaining high damage is preferred (not to mention easier breakpoints).
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Sep 30 2023 05:34pm
Quote (Djsem @ Sep 30 2023 11:49pm)
The extra 10~20% lightning resist from enemy was a major boost to damage in pvm before the introduction of sunder charms (D2LoD).
Another major point would of been to allow your mercenary to have another damage dealing weapon equipped to deal with lightning immune monsters or have more of a support role other than de-buffing the enemies with conviction.
In Pvm, it really does not matter and allowing yourself to survive easier while still maintaining high damage is preferred (not to mention easier breakpoints).


Well we are talking about D2R so your quote is invalid. And the question was for pvm obv.
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Sep 30 2023 05:52pm
-55 res > -35 res
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Sep 30 2023 06:00pm
Quote (Bugeater @ Oct 1 2023 01:52am)
-55 res > -35 res


Sure, that is in the planner as well, and still CM make more dmg because you have more skills
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Sep 30 2023 06:14pm
I self used infinity so my merc could use insight, and my energy shield was *almost* unstoppable

Still got absolutely trashed if I tp’d into a pack of gloams and dolls

I’d like to try crescent moon and see how it compares, I might go for it this ladder

This post was edited by frothyshoes on Sep 30 2023 06:16pm
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Oct 1 2023 06:52am
your infinity build is suboptimal. you want fcr on amulet to bring a second soj. furthermore you are better off swapping boots to sandstorm (pr and plr are the only resists that matter)
self-wield infinity allows A2 insight merc for great mana regen, this boosts survivability to an absurd amount
most important point (as already said in post #4) is the increase in -elr
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Oct 1 2023 07:31am
It's all about the prayer merc, self wield is best wield.
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Oct 1 2023 07:59am
Quote (PiXi31415 @ Oct 1 2023 02:52pm)
your infinity build is suboptimal. you want fcr on amulet to bring a second soj. furthermore you are better off swapping boots to sandstorm (pr and plr are the only resists that matter)
self-wield infinity allows A2 insight merc for great mana regen, this boosts survivability to an absurd amount
most important point (as already said in post #4) is the increase in -elr


Yeah I know -lr is inportant but in the dmg calculation it's counted, and still less dmg

I can change up a bit but that won't change the outcome. Also myself using a CM nova sorc and I never really run out of mana - if I get a big hit sure, but then you need to drink anyway insight or no insight. Swapping WTs to silkweave solved any problem I had even on players8. Seems like for the price advantage and dmg advantage is better to wild CM+spirit. Also for ton more mana, res, fhr.
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Quote (Vismajor @ 30 Sep 2023 19:34)
Well we are talking about D2R so your quote is invalid. And the question was for pvm obv.


So, can you explain why users are still equipping infinity over using crescent moon?
A majority of builds were carried over from D2LoD before sunder charms.
What still works people are building, even if it is not effective as something else.

I listed the reason why to why people would equip infinity runeword.
Can you list the reasons why people would equip infinity on a sorceress?
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