I sometimes see 15/15 or 15/3 or 15/0 4os
Eth CV or CA or Mancatcher or Thresher or Giant thresher go for crazy values how come?

I have a 4os Eth Mancatcher 7/14
and a 4os Eth Giant Thresher 13/14

Are these worth anything?

Should i try and sell them or which would you use for infinity

people paying premium prices for perfect items, it is a prestige thing...
but cv is a horrible base and i also dont really get why people buy it later in the season. seems like there are quite a lot that only look for max dmg and havent understood thr concept of avg dmg yet ^^

post your bases for trade, you shoul definitely get offers

You look like one of those tho.

Usual endgame Forty + Andy with 15IAS jewel + infinity on CV, Thresher, mancatcher, GP, CA and GT, this is the average damage (not in the same order)

350 - 347.7 - 379.2 - 381.2 - 360.4 - 335

Another round of DPS with Treachery instead of Fortitude:

427.8 - 425 - 413.6 - 415.9 - 432.5 - 372.2

Can you point of the "horrible" CV out of them? spoiler alert, is not the last one.

In both cases is the 3rd one, is actually very solid with forty and still competitive with treachery, is never going to be the best base since CA is just the same but with 0.5 more average damage and for the others builds being a bit faster also can have some small advantages, like a bit more CB damage (a loooot less that what people think) or being sent to FHR less often since he can attacks before get hit. (for the record, the order is GT, Thresher, CV, CA, GP and mancatcher)

But the point is that CV is never horrible, is also never the best but if you have one is going to be a decent choice no matter what.

simulated dps lvl 95 might merc vs p8 diablo using maxroll: https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner

(jab frame per 2), (physical damage per second), (time to kill)


andy(15ias) + fort + infinity:
mancatcher - 10 frame, 6148, 24.89s ttk
Giant Thresher - 11 frame, 6307, 25.76s ttk
Thresher - 11 frame, 6256, 25.87s ttk
CV - 12 frame, 6676, 26.07s ttk
GPA - 12 frame, 6369, 26.67s ttk


andy(15ias) + treachery + infinity:
Giant Thresher - 9 frame, 5261, 25.36s ttk
Threasher - 9 frame, 5219, 25.45s ttk
mancatcher - 9 frame, 4662, 26.77s ttk
GPA - 10 frame, 5236, 26.89 ttk
CV - 11 frame, 4971, 28.98s ttk


andy(CHAM) + treachery + infinity:
mancatcher - 9 frame, 4662, 26.77s ttk
GPA - 10 frame, 5236, 26.89 ttk
Giant Thresher - 10 frame, 4735, 28.18s ttk
Threasher - 10 frame, 4697, 28.28s ttk
CV - 11 frame, 4971, 28.98s ttk

ahh thanks for the replies

It seems the difference is very minimal either way

interesting stuffs

well that helps with damage wise, but how about price wise?

why do some ofe these go for so much (just the base itself)

Like i see some 15/15 and 15/3 base (no runes yet) for so much

would a 15/3 eth CV be also worth alot and why?

example?

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101243032&f=268&p=647643672#p647643672

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101305639&f=268&p=647979744#p647979744

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101250428&f=268&p=647684480#p647684480

4 sx Eth Thresher 15 ed 3 Ar vs 4k
4 sx Eth Giant Thresher 13 Ed 1 Ar vs 1k
10ed/0dur Eth Tresher 4os 200fg
12ed/2ar Eth Tresher 4os 300fg
14ed Eth Tresher 4os 400fg
15ed/15dur Eth Tresher 4os 2500fg

Etc

It’s the same for almost any item with variable stats. Perfect is always going to be worth disproportionately more due to higher demand - a lot of people want perfects and so the price increases because of that demand

13ed gt Worth something

I only care about breakpoint of ias
used warpike base last season ,
It is slower then CV
With treachery and Andy 80ias
reached a breakpoint
It is good to kill unique /champion in terror zone with that high damage

Mancatcher is the fastest ,which is good for kill boss like Baal or clone diablo (40%cb)