Quote (reggaeman23 @ 10 Apr 2023 06:51)

bow zon using windforce

20fg to someone who can explain this to me in simple terms that a special person can understand. I dont even want to try to research it because its going to go over my little head

ive been trying to hit higher frames with different combinations. I got a merc with faith.

so there is a certain frame i hit. I was trying to get to the that particular frame by equipping 30 more ias from gear to see if i could ditch the faith

i got the same frames with faith buff + the 30 ias. so i just took off 30 ias gear to add MF.

but then i heard of the runeword called hustle. so i made one

i proc the burst of speed and hit an entire other frame that i didnt even know about with the faith buff, which is cool

But i just wanted to hit the frame i was searching for ORIGINALLY w/o the 30 ias extra gear and/or ditching the faith. Burst of speed only grants 21% ias. Why do i get the extra frame with burst of speed but not from the 30 ias extra gear?



Finally. It also matters on my bow type? Even though windforce hydra bow has 40 ias. other bases can shoot faster with less ias? Im lost. Going to bed. Ill send 20 fg to someone who give me a clear answer, if thats possible

Quote (reggaeman23 @ Apr 10 2023 07:51am)

bow zon using windforce

20fg to someone who can explain this to me in simple terms that a special person can understand. I dont even want to try to research it because its going to go over my little head

ive been trying to hit higher frames with different combinations. I got a merc with faith.

so there is a certain frame i hit. I was trying to get to the that particular frame by equipping 30 more ias from gear to see if i could ditch the faith

i got the same frames with faith buff + the 30 ias. so i just took off 30 ias gear to add MF.

but then i heard of the runeword called hustle. so i made one

i proc the burst of speed and hit an entire other frame that i didnt even know about with the faith buff, which is cool

But i just wanted to hit the frame i was searching for ORIGINALLY w/o the 30 ias extra gear and/or ditching the faith. Burst of speed only grants 21% ias. Why do i get the extra frame with burst of speed but not from the 30 ias extra gear?



Finally. It also matters on my bow type? Even though windforce hydra bow has 40 ias. other bases can shoot faster with less ias? Im lost. Going to bed. Ill send 20 fg to someone who give me a clear answer, if thats possible

Quote (Soppamies @ Apr 10 2023 05:37am)

Bcoz if you ask from Blizzard 1 + 1 is not 2, it’s 1,5.

Quote (olrios @ Apr 10 2023 07:44am)

1. Items adds IAS, while skills adds SIAS (skill's ias).
2. IAS from items is converted to EIAS (effective ias) which have diminishing return.
3. After that, EIAS and SIAS are summed, making SIAS much more effective then IAS from items because SIAS isn't affected by previous diminishing return of the calculation.

AnimationDuration = ceiling((AnimationLength * 256) / flooring(256 * (1 + SIAS + EIAS - WeaponSpeedMod) / 100)) -1
where EIAS = flooring(120 * IASItem / (120 + IASItem)) <- that's diminishing return's calculation

For example 60 IAS is equal to 40 EIAS
60IAS = 40EIAS = 40SIAS
30IAS = 24EIAS = 24SIAS

Some weapons have additional penalty. Example throwing potions. However Barbarian isn't affected by that penalty.
Also there are different animationsLenght for some skills, also if few skills the calculation formula changes slightly.

Quote (gel87 @ Apr 12 2023 08:31am)

EIAS is what is used to determine a FPA.
FPA = Frames Per Attack.

Basicly meaning that an attack use forexample 7 frames to perform an attack.
But the hit itself can hit before the 7th frame.

This, but also:
Sequence attacks can have wsm penalties.
Like forexample jab, it has 30wsm penalty.

Some attacks also has next delay:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81090548&f=87

Baseframe is the same as AnimationLenght in this formula.
Hitframe is when u actually hit, some attacks use that value instead of baseframe. Some wepons/animations have a different animation speed, example is assassin attacking with claws. Which is 208. Casting traps, kics etc use the standard 256 even though claws are used.
AnimationDuration is usually called FPA here(frames per attack).

It's also worth to mention the breakpoint system is 25frames.
So if u have a 7fpa attack with hitframe on 6 it means u do 25/7 = 3,57 attacks per second.
Meanwhile ur attacks will land at frame 6, 12, 18, 24 etc...

The cap for EIAS is usually 75, meanwhile werewolf and werebear has 150 cap.
Frenzy, Dragon claw, double swing, double throw has Velocity Increase instead of EIAS. Their cap is 150. It's a different formula as well.

Slow also affect EIAS. Just subtract it like with wsm.

The only dimishing return value is IAS.

Here is a pretty good explanation, even though its a little outdated for werewolf the explanations are good :)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92642105&f=148

Actually found an old guide now:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89662420&f=148