Quote (dark-soul @ Feb 20 2011 03:32am)
Not going to happen though. We're all attached to our torches like we are our exiles

Response to something in that other thread: edeath isn't banned because of the damage on cast, it is banned because that particular skill causes a stun animation when it hits. If it cast lighting instead, it wouldn't be an issue really. Now, I personally think phoenix and edz are gm enough. If torch stays, edz and phoenix should be allowed in.
With tokens, banning torch from setb and tournaments is easy enough, and that's the main place for banning them anyway.
The other idea would be to abandon pn and start making palapk with no torch/same as setb rules. If someone wants to duel with a torch, go to pn, if you want to duel really GM, go to palapk.