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Feb 3 2011 12:19pm
Quote (Lord_Spanky @ Feb 3 2011 01:08pm)
non tap is superior .. bren just likes reliving the tap glory days me thinks ..

before bren came back pn was 95% non tap in zvz ..

bren came back and kinda brought tap back some ..

NT FTW :)


nt is boring as hell, and it supports the elitest mentality to buy rare items if you're wealthy etc...
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Feb 3 2011 12:22pm
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Feb 3 2011 12:51pm
how does the min/max dmg bug work on jwl's?
would it be useful if i sock 2x 40ed/10min dmg or 2x 40ed/15max jwls in my visio? or should i go with 2x 30max f.e. ? i know there's i bug, but dunno exactly lol
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Feb 3 2011 12:54pm
Quote (Psyho @ Feb 3 2011 10:51am)
how does the min/max dmg bug work on jwl's?
would it be useful if i sock 2x 40ed/10min dmg or 2x 40ed/15max jwls in my visio? or should i go with 2x 30max f.e. ? i know there's i bug, but dunno exactly lol


40ED + Min or Max = the 40ED only effecting one of em. (min or Max depending on the jewel)
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Feb 3 2011 12:55pm
Quote (Meatyy @ Feb 3 2011 01:19pm)
nt is boring as hell, and it supports the elitest mentality to buy rare items if you're wealthy etc...


heheh .. well .. we already discussed this before .. and i dont totally disagree with you ..

but boring no .. non tap is not boring ..

its just not accessable to everyone because it is for the wealthier players ..

at least it is with Jess's rule set ..

however, nt doesnt have to be no edc no botd rules .. keep that in mind ..

non tap is just non tap .. all other rules aside ..

the unpredictible slot machine type results you get from tap duels can be kinda fun i admit ..

but to say that nt is boring only serves to expose your bias against it imo .. :)

honestly .. it all gets boring if you do too much of it ..

I find that doing tap only all the time is the epitome of boring ..
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Feb 3 2011 12:56pm
Quote (MASTER_ECHO @ 3 Feb 2011 19:54)
40ED + Min or Max = the 40ED only effecting one of em. (min or Max depending on the jewel)


thx bro, was not sure anymore...so you what would you sock, if you only want dmg? B) 30max? or 40ed/9str?
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Feb 3 2011 04:21pm
Quote (Meatyy @ Feb 3 2011 11:19am)
nt is boring as hell, and it supports the elitest mentality to buy rare items if you're wealthy etc...


i agree lol.
Quote (Lord_Spanky @ Feb 3 2011 11:55am)
heheh .. well .. we already discussed this before .. and i dont totally disagree with you ..

but boring no .. non tap is not boring ..

its just not accessable to everyone because it is for the wealthier players ..

at least it is with Jess's rule set ..

however, nt doesnt have to be no edc no botd rules .. keep that in mind ..

non tap is just non tap .. all other rules aside ..

the unpredictible slot machine type results you get from tap duels can be kinda fun i admit ..

but to say that nt is boring only serves to expose your bias against it imo .. :)

honestly .. it all gets boring if you do too much of it ..

I find that doing tap only all the time is the epitome of boring ..


ya..but it didn't last long i was hoping for.

a lot of people using non tap setups with uniques and runewords soo stupid. -_- im like meh i give up on it lol.
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Feb 4 2011 12:01am
Quote (LilNeko @ Feb 1 2011 10:05pm)
Like in non tap duels just use ebug fort or fort build and you can pretty much beat up anyone :lol:


...exactly why West doesn't like exile. We have zbug fort. Throw in exile and that's the default #1 build. There really aren't any other options. By removing exile, it makes it so that you have to think about the benefits of using fort over something else. I got a pretty good shaft/phoenix build going that has similar numbers to when I wear fort.

I haven't zealed in a while though, last tourney I saw they banned zbug fort (as well as any other glitched/imported items).
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Feb 4 2011 12:04am
Quote (LilNeko @ Feb 1 2011 11:05pm)
Meh not really.. you can do same thing with tap setups. I don't get how no exiles make it more exciting because duels only last for few seconds. Which is in tap ANYTHING could happend in duels which makes it exciting like you can be down 5-0 and STILL win 7-5 and thats exciting. Like in non tap duels just use ebug fort or fort build and you can pretty much beat up anyone :lol:


As if that doesn't happen without Exile. I Zealed in the Temple league at West a long time ago, and I have Zealed on East too and IMO West is bit more fun because of the variability of shields. Can use some pretty obscure weapons that need a lot of IAS% as well.
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Feb 4 2011 12:14am
Quote (sylvannos @ Feb 3 2011 11:01pm)
...exactly why West doesn't like exile. We have zbug fort. Throw in exile and that's the default #1 build. There really aren't any other options. By removing exile, it makes it so that you have to think about the benefits of using fort over something else. I got a pretty good shaft/phoenix build going that has similar numbers to when I wear fort.

I haven't zealed in a while though, last tourney I saw they banned zbug fort (as well as any other glitched/imported items).


Man that's super great idea though, I'm tired of glitches and import items ><
Quote (Godest @ Feb 3 2011 11:04pm)
As if that doesn't happen without Exile. I Zealed in the Temple league at West a long time ago, and I have Zealed on East too and IMO West is bit more fun because of the variability of shields. Can use some pretty obscure weapons that need a lot of IAS% as well.


It rarely happends with non tap :( You can use pretty obsure weapon also tap if needed a lot of ias as well. XD

I use my cyptic and requires 37ias. It's pretty hard to use but I figure out nice build and it works pretty well :D

This post was edited by LilNeko on Feb 4 2011 12:16am
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